# UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot in Manhattan \[breaking news: 2024-12-04\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news\ **Created:** [December 4, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159 "2024-12-04T16:11:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/443 "2024-12-09T12:55:03Z")
Nice! However, I see that the CEO killed was actually the lowest paid of all those shown. It’s always the “poor” that suffer. (Note: We need a “sarcasm” emoji.) ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/444 "2024-12-09T12:55:33Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > I trust we agree that _real_ social justice does not involve gunning down people in the streets. In this instance, yes. In general, not necessarily. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/445 "2024-12-09T13:04:26Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > In this instance, yes. In general, not necessarily. Yeah. The problem with vigilante justice isn’t that it’s _innately_ wrong, it’s that it goes bad places. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/446 "2024-12-09T14:07:38Z")
I must say I’m getting sick of hearing about the Monopoly money. Yes they found Monopoly money. I’m sure the experts have worked out that he had access to a Monopoly set. Beyond that, it doesn’t mean shit. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/447 "2024-12-09T14:42:20Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Yes they found Monopoly money. I’m sure the experts have worked out that he had access to a Monopoly set. Beyond that, it doesn’t mean shit. They think he may have taken a bus back to Atlanta, mebbe they should be looking at Atlantic City instead. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/448 "2024-12-09T14:47:44Z")
Yes, but a Monopoly set missing some of its bills! How many people have one of _those_ in their house? 🧐 ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/449 "2024-12-09T14:51:45Z")
It was probably Canadian money, but nobody involved recognized it 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/450 "2024-12-09T14:52:21Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > They think he may have taken a bus back to Atlanta, mebbe they should be looking at Atlantic City instead. 🤔 He’d get there faster on the Reading Railroad. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/451 "2024-12-09T15:06:05Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > Nice! Feel free to download and share. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/452 "2024-12-09T15:41:49Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I must say I’m getting sick of hearing about the Monopoly money. Yes they found Monopoly money. I’m sure the experts have worked out that he had access to a Monopoly set. Beyond that, it doesn’t mean shit. Well it’s almost certainly not a hunk of physical evidence that will link the perp to the crime. But it does say something sorta interesting about whatever was going on in that guy’s head. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/453 "2024-12-09T15:51:18Z")
Yeah, the more I think about it- maybe the amount sends a message. Maybe it’s the amount of claims that were denied to the shooter’s loved one. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/454 "2024-12-09T16:26:51Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > But what prevents a judge from just banging the gavel and saying, “Only talk about things that are directly relevant to whether you are guilty or not, no going off-topic?” Does the defendant have some constitutional right to pontificate? Everyone has the right to speak in defense, but this could go off topic. This is exactly the thing people were saying Trump would do at his trials. And his lawyers and the judge made it clear to him that a trial is not a political soapbox, it is an process to determine if a crime has been committed. And Trump didn’t testify. I don’t think it would be any different here. Less, in fact, because I doubt that this guy will have the resources to hire high-powered lawyers, like Trump did. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/455 "2024-12-09T16:40:22Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Yeah, the more I think about it- maybe the amount sends a message. Maybe it’s the amount of claims that were denied to the shooter’s loved one. I think that you’re on to something. There could be a big clue here. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/456 "2024-12-09T16:44:49Z")
It was the Insurance Adjuster in Manhattan with the pistol! ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/457 "2024-12-09T16:48:46Z")
has anyone checked where Col Mustard was last week? ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/458 "2024-12-09T16:59:15Z")
Looks like they might have found the suspect in Pennsylvania (gift link): [**Live Updates: Investigators of C.E.O.’s Killing Are Questioning a Man in Pennsylvania**](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/09/nyregion/uhc-ceo-murder-suspect?unlocked_article_code=1.gE4.ezkt.NEqsRlbUrU0X&smid=url-share) > [@The New York Times](#): > > …The man was identified based on a tip from someone who spotted him in a McDonald’s restaurant, one of the officials said, and is being held in Altoona, Pa. One of the law enforcement officials said that the man had a gun, a silencer and false identification cards similar to those they believe the killer used in New York. If true, this looks pretty damning. I wonder why he kept the evidence on his person instead of disposing of it by now? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/459 "2024-12-09T17:25:07Z")
I also wonder why they didn’t leave the country or travel further. Maybe they want to be caught but they seem to have planned everything in an effort to get away. I guess we will know soon enough if this turns out to be the correct person. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/460 "2024-12-09T17:25:31Z")
It was apparently a ghost gun. Ratted out by a McDonald’s employee who will get a $60k reward. They better hope that they can keep their identity secret. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/461 "2024-12-09T17:26:29Z")
Isn’t this why you use the drive-thru? ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/462 "2024-12-09T17:28:10Z")
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