# UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot in Manhattan \[breaking news: 2024-12-04\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news\ **Created:** [December 4, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159 "2024-12-04T16:11:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/503 "2024-12-09T20:42:25Z")
Indeed. It would be even more appropriate if, in addition to his name, he did not have a gun, but he did have some cannoli. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/504 "2024-12-09T20:47:02Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > Or his other brother, Chuck? I thought his other bother was Daryl ---
**Author:** ![Chelonaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9a140/32.png) [@Chelonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chelonaut)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/505 "2024-12-09T20:47:10Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > > [@Horatius](#): > > > > On Reddit, some people were actually writing new lyrics to “The Hero of Canton” about him. > > I wonder how many of them understand the irony of that appellation Do you mean he did _not_ botch a heist four years ago? And the accomplice he abandoned to be caught by authorities does _not_ have some punny name like “Stitch Hessian”? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/506 "2024-12-09T20:51:00Z")
Oh Lord, he’s one of those “reject modernity embrace tradition” types. [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:7d7hkphd43rwukszjzxya3yh/bafkreift4cxzkomgxam4wmzoflbyh6nhdaoy25ji2aa7twro7t45lgqceu@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:7d7hkphd43rwukszjzxya3yh/bafkreift4cxzkomgxam4wmzoflbyh6nhdaoy25ji2aa7twro7t45lgqceu@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/507 "2024-12-09T21:17:31Z")
So much confusion in such a small package. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/508 "2024-12-09T21:21:54Z")
A killer Weeboo incel? Don Quixote/Donkey Hoodie? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/509 "2024-12-09T21:23:09Z")
Now is not the time to be picky about our heroes. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/510 "2024-12-09T21:29:16Z")
IIRC while the Unabomber was uncaught he was a folk hero to many disaffected folks. Once he was caught the reality of how far he wasn’t the hero of the common man came to light and his image quickly changed to reclusive useless crank. I suspect this fellow’s following is quickly going through their own disillusionment phase. Heroic attacker of Big Health to incel fatcat loozer in 1 day flat. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/511 "2024-12-09T21:31:31Z")
Wait, what? ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/512 "2024-12-09T21:36:02Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > & that bastion of reporting , the NYPost _already_ has a story up w/ background research on him. Amazing what they dug up so quickly I’m sure that Post reporters have some law enforcement contacts with substantial mutual-backscratching agreements that could have gotten a name before public release along with an agreement to not scoop until the public release happens, to give them the opportunity to get a quick start on their background research. I’d bet the contact has earned a couple of substantial pro-cop op-eds the next time the union calls for new contract negotiations. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/513 "2024-12-09T21:38:13Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Heroic attacker of Big Health to incel fatcat loozer in 1 day flat. He worked in a nursing home when he was in high school, lost both his grandparents fairly young, and it sounds like he has chronic back pain that he hasn’t been able to get treated. Sounds like a typical disaffected young well-to-do white guy who got radicalized by internet brainrot and decided he had the means to do John Wick stuff about it. I’d like to be able to read his “manifesto” before I completely write him off. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/514 "2024-12-09T21:43:54Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Heroic attacker of Big Health to incel fatcat loozer in 1 day flat. Yep. The only way to remain a ‘folk hero’ was to vanish completely, perhaps after taking out a few more fat cats. Now he’s just a guy who threw away a life of both privilege and achievement and for what? An instantly replaceable CEO whose name I’ve already forgotten. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/515 "2024-12-09T21:54:20Z")
The badly written NY Post article seems to be claiming that Penn is a private school. Isn’t it public? Also, without any defence of his actions, I can sympathize with a lot of his complaints. Re: traditional culture, in some ways he’s right, but in many laughably wrong, and clearly doesn’t fully understand cultural systems and the individual’s freedom (= lack thereof) within them. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/516 "2024-12-09T21:56:15Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > The badly written NY Post article seems to be claiming that Penn is a private school. Isn’t it public? Despite the name (University of Pennsylvania), it’s a private university. Penn State is the state’s public university. (Similarly, I labored under the misconception that the University of Southern California was a public school for many years.) ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/517 "2024-12-09T21:57:24Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > The badly written NY Post article seems to be claiming that Penn is a private school. Isn’t it public? Penn is a private Ivy League school. Penn State is a public university. ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/518 "2024-12-09T21:58:08Z")
The University of Pennsylvania is a private, and very prestigious, school. The main public university of that state is Pennsylvania State University. ---
**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/519 "2024-12-09T22:03:41Z")
Bit of a hijack but Penn State (at least the main campus) isn’t really public either. It’s “[State Affiliated](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_System_of_Higher_Education)” (kind of public-private hybrid status), along with Temple, Lincoln, and Pitt. ~~The Penn State branch campuses~~ and the PASSHE campuses are public. On edit apparently the branch campuses aren’t public either. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/520 "2024-12-09T22:05:55Z")
Thanks, all re: PA universities. BBC is reporting that he is a cousin of a Republican state politician, Nino Mangione. Not significant but interesting. ---
**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/521 "2024-12-09T22:57:02Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Luigi Mangione. Didn’t see that comin’. This means there’s a Waluigi Mangione who works in private equity. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/522 "2024-12-09T22:57:59Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > The badly written NY Post article seems to be claiming that Penn is a private school. Isn’t it public? I believe they may have been referring to Gilman School, a combined primary and secondary private school he attended, which reportedly charges $40K annual tuition. > [@Horatius](#): > > > [@Sherrerd](#): > > > > If he wants to get expensive lawyers he could probably get that crowd-funded. > > I’d bet there’s a few lawyers out there who’d take it pro bono. Either they’re looking for publicity, or they have family members who were screwed by UHC. It sounds like the family has the money for top lawyers, but I’m skeptical that top-tier lawyers would want a case that they’re guaranteed to lose. This is an open-and-shut case if ever there was one. “Health insurance companies are scum” may be a factual statement but it isn’t a defense. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159.md?page=27)