# UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot in Manhattan \[breaking news: 2024-12-04\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news\ **Created:** [December 4, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159 "2024-12-04T16:11:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/847 "2024-12-23T22:16:57Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > Oh wait… I can think of another difference The guy that Judas “finked on” was supposed to be tortured and actually knew Judas was going to betray him. Judas’ role was a crucial part of that one guy’s legend.        The authorities must step carefully here. If it comes to the point of executing Luigi under the federal terrorism charges, he could become as much of a martyr as that other guy was. It could result in some serious national unrest. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/848 "2024-12-23T23:49:21Z")
Or a whole new religion. L. Ron Hubbard started with a less compelling story. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/849 "2024-12-24T00:10:54Z")
But does Mangione have any DC-8s? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/850 "2024-12-24T02:22:52Z")
Moderating: I think we are drifting away from “breaking news” here. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/851 "2025-01-16T15:04:41Z")
It looks theoretically possible that UnitedHealthcare wasn’t exactly the Good Corporate Citizen that we were led to believe they were: > **[UnitedHealth, employer of slain exec Brian Thompson, found to have...](https://fortune.com/2025/01/15/ftc-pbms-unitedhealth-brian-thompson-cvs-caremark-cigna-pharmacy-benefit-managers/)** > > The report is the latest indictment of America’s broken healthcare system. > OptumRx, the group’s pharmacy benefit manager, along with its two main peers, Express Scripts and CVS Caremark Rx, have pocketed an extra $7.3 billion over cost thanks to price gouging, according to the findings of a report by the Federal Trade Commission. CVS Caremark Rx blasted the findings for cherry picking certain drugs in an effort to push what it called an ‘anti-PBM’ narrative. “Cherry picking.” Yeah. What about all those people that I _didn’t_ murder?? (Look for the FTC to rocket its way up the list of agencies for Trump to immediately neuter) > The U.S. is notorious for incurring the highest costs per capita of any wealthy nation, yet failing to achieve an even remotely equivalent improvement in patient outcomes versus Europe’s social market-based economies. Murica!! ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/852 "2025-04-01T17:59:41Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Particularly if the ‘tried federally’ plan works out and the death penalty is called for by the federal prosecutors. You talk, Pam Bondi listens: > **[Attorney General Pamela Bondi Directs Prosecutors to Seek Death Penalty for...](https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-pamela-bondi-directs-prosecutors-seek-death-penalty-luigi-mangione)** > > Today, Attorney General Pamela Bondi released the following statement: > “Luigi Mangione’s murder of Brian Thompson — an innocent man and father of two young children — was a premeditated, cold-blooded assassination that shocked America. After careful consideration, I have directed federal prosecutors to seek the death penalty in this case as we carry out President Trump’s agenda to stop violent crime and Make America Safe Again.” ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/853 "2025-04-01T19:13:40Z")
Meenwhile in California. 😆 > **[Here's Why People Can't Stop Talking About The "Luigi Mangione Act"](https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexalisitza/reactions-luigi-mangione-act)** > > Reactions range from debates about the ballot initiative's name to its potential effects on the healthcare system. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/854 "2025-04-01T19:32:14Z")
(Edit, never mind) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/855 "2025-04-01T19:47:47Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Meenwhile in California. 😆 Yuck, that’s fucking disgusting. Eta: it’s also utter bullshit. The utter idiot proposing the bill is a retired lawyer, not a politician; and he misspelled Luigi’s name on his proposal. It’s actually the Mangioni act 🤣 It needs hundreds of thousands of signatures before anything comes of it. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/856 "2025-04-01T20:00:08Z")
Just a reminder that there’s a subset of licensed physicians who are sure that ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine will solve many of your problems. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/857 "2025-04-01T20:13:21Z")
Yet nearly everyone I know has experienced a denial of payment from insurance companies, for legitimate care. ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/858 "2025-04-01T21:22:14Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > The utter idiot proposing the bill is a retired lawyer, not a politician Nitpick: It’s a ballot proposition, not a bill. In California literally anyone can get a proposition onto the ballot if they collect enough signatures. And if it gets on the ballot and enough people vote for it, it becomes law without any input from the legislature. Yes, California’s voter initiative system is a form of direct democracy that completely bypasses the legislature (IIRC it came out of the populist movement of the early 20th century, when Californians felt their elected officials were all in the pockets of the railroad companies). ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/859 "2025-04-01T21:28:21Z")
I wish I still lived in California so I could vote for it. It sounds like a good idea to me regardless of the name. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/860 "2025-04-01T21:51:17Z")
> [@WildaBeast](#): > > if it gets on the ballot and enough people vote for it, it becomes law without any input from the legislature Although, > [@CA Constitution Article II §8](#): > > (d) An initiative measure embracing more than one subject may not be submitted to the electors or have any effect. the courts can get involved. In my state, there have been initiatives that were struck down because the office chair thief who submitted them tried to put a sweet candy wrapper around a second provision that might well have failed on its own. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/861 "2025-04-01T22:59:30Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > In my state, there have been initiatives that were struck down because the office chair thief Hi, neighbor! ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2026, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/862 "2026-08-14T16:30:43Z")
Luigi Mangione pleads guity to Federal charges, faces life in prison. His lawyers are moving to get the state charges dismissed. > **[Luigi Mangione pleads guilty to federal stalking charges in the killing of...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/us--unitedhealthcare-ceo-killed-040429261.html)** > > Luigi Mangione pleaded guilty on Friday to federal stalking charges in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, admitting matter-of-factly that he trailed the executive to an investor confe... ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2026, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/863 "2026-08-14T18:46:56Z")
You can get life in prison for stalking? ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2026, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/864 "2026-08-14T18:59:08Z")
There are different levels of stalking penalties depending on the particular circumstances. Stalking that results in death can carry the penalty of life in prison. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2026, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/865 "2026-08-14T19:37:04Z")
He killed a rich white CEO, somebody whose life _mattered,_ so they are going to make an example of him. It’s not what you do, it’s who you do it to; if it had been a poor black man they’d probably never even have looked hard enough to catch him, much less decided on life in prison. ---
**Author:** ![3AxisCtrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/ecd19e/32.png) [@3AxisCtrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3AxisCtrl)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2026, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/866 "2026-08-14T20:04:40Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > He killed a rich white CEO, somebody whose life _mattered_ … Did he kill at random, just happening to target someone prominent? Or did he select his victim _because_ he was prominent? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159.md?page=42) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159.md?page=44)