# UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot in Manhattan \[breaking news: 2024-12-04\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news\ **Created:** [December 4, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159 "2024-12-04T16:11:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 745
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/745 "2024-12-11T20:31:06Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > > Some employees grappled with the idea that their paychecks were padded in part by the practice of denying care. > > > The episode made them question whether they could keep working for UnitedHealth both mentally and morally, this person said. > [@Gyrate](#): > > Umm…did they not know this already? ^ Yeah, that was my thought. My experience working in the Evil Insurance Empire was that we all pretty much knew where the money came from. Some were there as a career, others like me were there because it was a way to get coverage for either ourselves or our family. > [@Smapti](#): > > Perhaps they (or their AI) decided that it was “unnecessary care”, or the plan on the individual market that he could afford doesn’t provide enough coverage to make it affordable. Back in the day a common issue was chronic pain - insurance companies don’t want to pay to deal with it, will imply it’s imaginary or exaggerated, etc. One doctor we had on the review panel once said (paraphrasing) _pain isn’t disabling, lots of people hold down a job even if they’re in constant pain_ which gives you an idea of the mindset of some of the decision makers. If the guy had back surgery and it didn’t fix the problem or he still had a problem, or it created a problem, or he had constant pain… well, maybe that was a factor. But I don’t know. > [@wolfpup](#): > > Looks to be just the kind of slimeball lawyer I would have expected to take the case. The first words out of his mouth were that he’s seen “zero evidence” that his client has done anything wrong. This should go well It’s a defense attorney’s job to defend his client no matter how guilty looking. Given that the guy was (allegedly) on video shooting someone else in the back more than once that will necessitate some straw-clutching. > [@OttoDaFe](#): > > > The executives headed into the building and upstairs to the conference area where they sipped coffee, chatted and proceeded to get their hair and makeup done. > > Given that “executives” are mostly / almost always male, I found that last bit borderline creepy. Nope - appearances are a Big Deal at that level. Executives might be more open about it these days, but even 20-30 years ago when I was working as an “administrative assistant” that sort of thing was pretty common for the upper level men, right along with high-end expensive fitted suits and all the other accoutrements of wealth and success in our society. Even more so for any female executives. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159)._