# University professor to students: "You cocksuckers are vectors of disease to me"

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**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [January 14, 2022, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767 "2022-01-14T01:39:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/21 "2022-01-14T20:28:07Z")

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This is one of funniest videos I’ve seen in a while. This old coot is a hoot! Bravo Professor!

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/22 "2022-01-14T22:42:18Z")

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IMO (as a college professor who generally supports the right of other faculty to conduct their classes as they see fit): really unprofessional, and also very bad judgment to say any of this stuff on video regardless of satirical intent, unless of course he _wanted_ to be put on administrative leave. (Which he may have done – a tenured professor a semester from retirement is essentially untouchable, and the main result of this from his point of view is four months of paid vacation. But it forces his colleagues to take up the slack at the last minute, which is a dick move.)

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/23 "2022-01-16T15:05:36Z")

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There could be an element here of Emeritus Syndrome, which envelops people at the tail end of their academic careers and they veer off into the crazy, generally some form of pseudoscience or philosophical nuthatchery.

Usually they wait until their active teaching/research activities are done with, though.

The Nobel Disease is a related phenomenon.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/24 "2022-01-18T00:29:00Z")

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Wow. That’s the ultimate example of Ivory Tower behavior. If he’s a history teacher he should gloss over the French Revolution.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/25 "2022-01-18T00:31:47Z")

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> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#):
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> – a tenured professor a semester from retirement is essentially untouchable,

It certainly is from a legal standpoint.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/26 "2022-01-19T02:34:13Z")

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He is testing that very point:

> **[Suspended professor threatens to sue if he's not reinstated](https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-michigan-detroit-education-e83b9edd4e079362dfecae159af0a9a1)**
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> DETROIT (AP) — A Michigan professor who was suspended after making a profanity-filled video for his students is threatening to file a lawsuit if Ferris State University doesn't quickly lift the sanction.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/27 "2022-01-19T20:20:58Z")

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I don’t think QZ is the correct forum for this.

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**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/28 "2022-01-19T20:25:36Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> If you have to explain it, it is failed comedy/satire.

If you have to explain that it’s based on a _TV show,_ you’ve really failed.

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**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/29 "2022-01-19T20:36:33Z")

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The prof gets very high ratings on Rate My Professor, meaning a lot of people get the joke. The plagiarism piece is a rude, and thus attention-getting version of reciting a passage from Shakespeare likely unknown to the audience as if it were one’s own then saying–“pretty awesome, huh? But I didn’t write it, and if it seems like I did, then that’s plagiarism. A footnote will save the day.”

Deadwood is likely as well known to his target audience as, say, Coriolanus, and chosen for shock effect. Lot of people don’t like shock effect, but it works for a lot of other people. No single teaching technique works for everyone every time. And as Lenny Bruce may have said, “If you can’t say ‘fuck,’ you can’t say 'fuck the government.” Vulgarity is not a crime or sin or even moral transgression, but a question of purpose and taste, imho.

Not supportive of the “cocksucker” remarks, but other posters here have commented on various sides on that. More info on the case can be found here [https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2022/01/14/ferris-prof-who-didnt-want-teach-f2f-suspended-video](https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2022/01/14/ferris-prof-who-didnt-want-teach-f2f-suspended-video)

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/30 "2022-01-21T09:32:11Z")

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So, after reading the article: the whole thing was a rant about the school forcing him (and his colleagues) to go back to face-to-face classes during the omicron surge.

He does normally act like this, though. So at most it seems he just turned it up slightly. For him it’s win/win, it seems to me. He either has told his students not to come to class in a memorable way (they can get all their assignments online) or he gets out of teaching at all for his last semester. Or they give in and let him teach the class online.

Finally, I note that the whole thing was stated to clearly be scripted. So he’s not in any way losing his mind. He just is not about to risk his life for one last semester of teaching.

And he doesn’t think the rest of the teachers should have to risk it, either. So he’s now called attention to it.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2022, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/31 "2022-01-25T02:00:08Z")

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The professor responds:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/tPDw0Wr-vO0/hqdefault.jpg "Hello Internet (press release)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPDw0Wr-vO0)

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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2022, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/32 "2022-01-25T02:12:21Z")

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I wuv him.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2022, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/33 "2022-01-25T02:12:24Z")

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I can’t disagree with a single thing he said.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/34 "2022-01-26T03:27:57Z")

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Right. His mistake was thinking that the modern American university student has a sense of humor.

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/35 "2022-01-26T03:49:45Z")

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Actually his mistake was in not realizing his video would leak out to the general public, many of which don’t understand or just plane hate independent, critical thinking. The vast majority of his class got it and appreciated it for what is was (satire) , but it only took one to put it out there for the right wing cancel culture to feast on and twist its message.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/36 "2022-02-01T13:14:40Z")

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Kayaker, why did the teacher not let non-majors earn a grade? As a professor, I’m genuinely curious — I feel like this is something I should know!

(Apologies to all for the brief hijack.)

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/37 "2022-02-01T13:27:37Z")

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I’m thinking he’s transitioning from his career as a professor right into dementia. 😳

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/38 "2022-02-01T13:53:36Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Kayaker, why did the teacher not let non-majors earn a grade?

He felt it would be unfair, as the non-major would be graded comparatively with the majors. That’s how he explained it to the class. Also, in the course catalogue it was listed as an upper level English course.

I also took an elective for English credits “Physics in Science Fiction” taught by a physics professor. It may have been my most difficult class. Everyone other than me was a physics major.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/39 "2022-02-02T01:29:13Z")

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Okay, thanks.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/university-professor-to-students-you-cocksuckers-are-vectors-of-disease-to-me/957767/40 "2022-02-02T01:33:05Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> > [@JKellyMap](#):
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> > Kayaker, why did the teacher not let non-majors earn a grade?
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> He felt it would be unfair, as the non-major would be graded comparatively with the majors. That’s how he explained it to the class. Also, in the course catalogue it was listed as an upper level English course.

I’ve never understood the idea of grades as a competition. They just show how much I recall and understand the material. I only compete with myself.

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