# Unknown Marker

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unknown-marker/744913>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [February 2, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unknown-marker/744913 "2016-02-02T03:07:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![n5tp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@n5tp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/n5tp)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unknown-marker/744913/1 "2016-02-02T03:07:38Z")

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This is a photo of a fountain at UT Arlington. Can someone please identify anything about it?

[http://tiny.cc/i51r8x](http://tiny.cc/i51r8x)

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unknown-marker/744913/2 "2016-02-02T04:05:40Z")

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Did you take the picture? I’m guessing that if you go to the one in the back and look through it AND the one in the foreground you’d see something, however, Googling is getting me nowhere.

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**Author:** ![n5tp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@n5tp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/n5tp)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unknown-marker/744913/3 "2016-02-02T04:10:32Z")

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No, it was taken by a student who asked me if I know what it represents. I will ask her to go look thru the two circles and tell me if she saw anything.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unknown-marker/744913/4 "2016-02-02T04:12:03Z")

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Even better, message them on Facebook, it says they ‘typically reply within minutes’, so even if someone isn’t watching their FB page right now, you’ll probably have an answer by morning. But it wouldn’t surprise me if someone keeps a close eye on the FB page since students might use that as way to communicate with them. It’s faster than trying to find an email address.

[XKCD](https://xkcd.com/773/)

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unknown-marker/744913/5 "2016-02-02T04:19:59Z")

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It looks like there’s a plaque at the bottom of that monument. Perhaps whatever it says is relevant?

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**Author:** ![Isilder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@Isilder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isilder)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unknown-marker/744913/6 "2016-02-02T12:45:46Z")

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Tau Beta Pi National Engineering Honors Society…

In the courtyard formed by the angle of Woolf Hall.

[http://www.panoramio.com/photo/107405212?source=wapi&referrer=kh.google.com](http://www.panoramio.com/photo/107405212?source=wapi&referrer=kh.google.com)

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**Author:** ![n5tp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@n5tp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/n5tp)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unknown-marker/744913/7 "2016-02-02T15:00:10Z")

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Thank You!!!

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unknown-marker/744913/8 "2016-02-02T15:15:00Z")

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> [@Isilder](#):
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> Tau Beta Pi National Engineering Honors Society…
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> In the courtyard formed by the angle of Woolf Hall.
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> [Panoramio is no longer available](http://www.panoramio.com/photo/107405212?source=wapi&referrer=kh.google.com)

What does the plaque say? It’s too small on my iPad and I can’t expand it.

TIA

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unknown-marker/744913/9 "2016-02-02T16:55:04Z")

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It says:  
TAU BETA PI  
TEXAS ?? ???  
CHARTERED 1904  
THE NATIONAL ENGINEERING  
HONOR SOCIETY  
RECOGNIZING EXCELLENCE AND  
INTEGRITY IN ENGINEERING

The “?? ???” part may be “AD \<Roman numeral date\>”, but I don’t have much confidence in that.  
Per wiki [Tau Beta Pi - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tau_Beta_Pi) their motto is “Integrity and Excellence in Engineering”.

No, I don’t know why “Excellence” and “Integrity” are in opposite order between wiki & the plaque. It’s clear they’re different; I’m not misreading it.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unknown-marker/744913/10 "2016-02-02T16:56:33Z")

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> [@lslguy](#):
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> the ?? Part may be “ad \<roman numeral date\>”.

??=ETA CHAPTER

qqq

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unknown-marker/744913/11 "2016-02-02T18:36:38Z")

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Agreed. Good work!

Per [List of Tau Beta Pi chapters - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tau_Beta_Pi_chapters) that school is the “Texas Eta” chapter of TBP. That last word is very badly eroded but “chapter” certainly fits both the word length and the likely intent.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unknown-marker/744913/12 "2016-02-02T19:33:18Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Agreed. Good work!
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> Per [List of Tau Beta Pi chapters - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tau_Beta_Pi_chapters) that school is the “Texas Eta” chapter of TBP. That last word is very badly eroded but “chapter” certainly fits both the word length and the likely intent.

I can read the entire sign just fine. [Here’s how it looks on my computer](http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f44/JoeyJoeyPP/sign_zpsjwdxogd4.jpg). TEXAS ETA CHAPTER is, for sure, what it says.

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**Author:** ![Isilder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@Isilder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isilder)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unknown-marker/744913/13 "2016-02-03T03:51:17Z")

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Also this … the two markers line up ?

[http://www.panoramio.com/photo/107405274](http://www.panoramio.com/photo/107405274)

I wonder if they are perfectly east west, and the sun will be seen through the two loops , once or twice a year…
