# Unpacking Rosanne Barr's Latest Rant **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 28, 2023, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220 "2023-06-28T11:40:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Guapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ed655f/32.png) [@Guapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guapo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/1 "2023-06-28T11:40:57Z")
Can anyone unpack Roseanne’s latest outburst? It seems as though she was trying to compare holocaust deniers to people who censor social media, but does she believe the Trump/Biden election was rigged or was she saying that election deniers are like holocaust deniers? Or is she herself a holocaust denier? [https://eu.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2023/06/27/roseanne-barr-criticized-for-reprehensible-holocaust-comments/70362521007/](https://eu.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2023/06/27/roseanne-barr-criticized-for-reprehensible-holocaust-comments/70362521007/) ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/3 "2023-06-28T11:47:23Z")
Closed while waiting for reply from @Guapo if it is OK to move this thread to the Pit. It is a poor fit for the Cafe and likely to get very heated. Reopened in the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/5 "2023-06-28T13:10:30Z")
I think there were several layers of sarcasm in her rant that make it hard to untangle. She has always been a shock comic, so I’m sure she was using extreme statements to make her point, whatever it was. I think it was something about censoring people who spread conspiracy theories or something. Anyway, that’s as far as I will defend this obvious racist troll (Roseanne, not the OP). I don’t think she’s a holocaust denier, but who knows what rabbit holes she’s gone down since her original mess. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/6 "2023-06-28T13:12:36Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > She has always been a shock comic Heh. I think she has always _attempted_ to be a shock comic. Really, she should just go away. ---
**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/7 "2023-06-28T13:14:58Z")
I thought it was pretty clear, just a little weird that she slams holocaust deniers and ppl who think the 2020 election was legit in the same breath. It’s confusing because those folks are often on the same side of the coin. The Hollywood comment is very typical of Jewish humor too, I’m pretty sure the same or very similar joke was told on Curb Your Enthusiasm. People are just quick and eager to jump on her because well, she’s Roseanne Barr. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/8 "2023-06-28T13:25:19Z")
Her rant is indicative of Trump Derangement Syndrome. People who believe the things Trump says start to diverge farther and farther from sanity. She somehow thinks that denying 2020 Election Fraud is akin to denying the Holocaust. Trump had over 60 opportunities to present evidence of Election Fraud in court, and failed miserably every single time. The only “evidence” of Election Fraud are the words coming out of Trump’s mouth. Yet she thinks this is comparable to the immensely documented atrocities committed during the Holocaust. Failing to believe Trump’s evidence-free whinging is the same as failing to believe a literal mountain of documentation, personal testimony, photos and mass graves from the Holocaust. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/9 "2023-06-28T13:26:31Z")
Barr’s comments show once again that Jews, even if not anti-Semitic themselves\*, are capable of dumbass remarks that serve the purposes of anti-Semites. \*Self-hatred exists. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/10 "2023-06-28T13:30:07Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Self-hatred exists. When the IMDb boards were still a thing, an Australian neo-Nazi who had been raised Jewish hung around conspiracy-related forums. He doxxed himself a couple of times. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/11 "2023-06-28T13:36:24Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > She somehow thinks that denying 2020 Election Fraud is akin to denying the Holocaust. Apparently she thinks that believing there was election fraud in 2020 is akin to denying the Holocaust. [Leading up to her Holocaust remarks, Roseanne is talking to Theo about how people believe things that aren’t true, like the 2020 election being fixed.](https://www.tmz.com/2023/06/27/roseanne-barr-holocaust-clip-son-defends-sarcasm-lack-context-theo-von/) ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/12 "2023-06-28T13:48:26Z")
Well, that would be a lot more reasonable. The OPs link said this though: > [@](#): > > Barr suggested that such sites forced users to agree with “proven truth” that, in her view, was false: the election was legitimate, or that nobody died in the Holocaust. That article suggests the opposite of yours, and it’s more proof that media sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Guapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ed655f/32.png) [@Guapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guapo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/13 "2023-06-28T13:57:00Z")
OK, so we have two different views on if she believes the truth is that the election was fixed or that it wasn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/14 "2023-06-28T14:38:56Z")
> [@Guapo](#): > > OK, so we have two different views on if she believes the truth is that the election was fixed or that it wasn’t. The full interview can be watched in my above link. Starting at 2:08, she says “the election was not rigged” at least twice, with the context that anyone who says otherwise is lying. ---
**Author:** ![Guapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ed655f/32.png) [@Guapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guapo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/15 "2023-06-28T14:56:14Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > The full interview can be watched in my above link. Starting at 2:08, she says “the election was not rigged” at least twice, with the context that anyone who says otherwise is lying. That makes more sense. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/16 "2023-06-28T15:24:19Z")
I don’t know that we really need to read much more into it than it being the crazy rants of a mentally ill person, considering that she’s on record as being mentally ill already. It’s the same thing as if Kanye West had said it; nobody looks for sense or logic in his nonsense either. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/17 "2023-06-28T15:48:23Z")
> [@bump](#): > > I don’t know that we really need to read much more into it than it being the crazy rants of a mentally ill person, considering that she’s on record as being mentally ill already. Maybe she was just on Ambien again. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/18 "2023-06-28T16:17:19Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Starting at 2:08, she says “the election was not rigged” at least twice, with the context that anyone who says otherwise is lying. So she’s saying something sane and sensible, but in an incredibly stupid and insensitive way? ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/19 "2023-06-28T16:25:50Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > she says “the election was not rigged” Thank you! I retract my comment, which I’m sure is a relief to Ms. Barr. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/20 "2023-06-28T16:27:45Z")
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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/21 "2023-06-28T16:36:45Z")
Very few comics remain relevant after their heyday, unless they’re really excellent at what they do. The smart ones find something else to do. She’s not one of those. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220/22 "2023-06-28T17:17:39Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > So she’s saying something sane and sensible, but in an incredibly stupid and insensitive way? Not to mention taken out of context by various entities. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpacking-rosanne-barrs-latest-rant/986220.md?page=2)