# Unpopular Positive Movie Opinion **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [August 2, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082 "2019-08-02T20:04:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/61 "2019-08-04T10:08:24Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > Well, if it wasn’t for the 2000 cutoff I’d mention _[Cherry 2000](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/cherry_2000)_. 40% at RT (and 1-1 among top critics). 😉 This, exactly. I love _Cherry 2000_ (the movie, not the sexbot), and though it doesn’t meet the OP’s parameters as to year, it deserves mention. Melanie Griffith as an action hero–gotta love it. She appeared clumsy and unsure in _Working Girl_ (which was probably the writer’s and director’s choice), and mostly succeeded, but that was not her forte. She was, however, forthright, badass, and confident in _Cherry 2000_. Her roles should have been in action movies, not rom-coms. _Cherry 2000_ proved that E. Johnson (Griffith) could rival the Terminator, Rocky, and John McClane on the action movie front. > [@Sunshine\_and\_Smiles](#): > > I’ll add 2001’s “Joe Dirt” - polling among critics at a dismal 11%. But I think it’s funny, and even more than that - had enough actual heart to make it work. \ I’m with you. \*Joe Dirt \*is a favourite, simply because it has heart. Every possible thing that can go wrong has been thrown against Joe from day one–and yet, he remains cheerfully optimistic, and eventually succeeds. What’s not to like about that? ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/62 "2019-08-04T10:16:56Z")
_Ghost Rider_—both the original (27%) and the sequel (18%) (I mean, come on, the latter has Cage miming a pelvic flamethrower while explaining to a kid what it’s like to pee as the rider!). Also, _Drive Angry_ (46%), where Nicolas Cage plays a father escaped from hell hunting down the demons/cult/whatever that want to sacrifice his infant granddaughter. I think there’s a [common theme](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8IfDNHsCLE&t=6s) here… ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/63 "2019-08-04T11:43:41Z")
Batman v Superman has its flaws (mostly trying to shoehorn in an ‘expanded universe’), but I genuinely enjoy it. Like a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/64 "2019-08-04T11:58:41Z")
> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#): > > Christophe Gans’ \*\*Silent Hill \*\*(2006) is rated 30% in RT. > > 30%. > > That’s just insane to me. Oh, sure, it’s not perfect. I’m not saying it should have won all the Oscars that year or anything… but it’s one of the finest horror movies I’ve ever seen, with plenty of really effective scenes. I owe you one. Watched Silent Hill yesterday and it was really good. Really good. Very impressive movie and should have had more attention. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/65 "2019-08-04T12:39:27Z")
_Ishtar_. Legendary as a bad movie, it’s actually quite good, if uneven in part. The first 20 minutes are comedy gold. It flags when they get to Ishtar, then picks up when the go to buy the camel and has some great scenes. The ending, though, is rushed. Overall, though, the good and great moments outnumber the bad ones by a wide margin. ---
**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/66 "2019-08-04T12:43:19Z")
> [@planetcory](#): > > Batman v Superman has its flaws (mostly trying to shoehorn in an ‘expanded universe’), but I genuinely enjoy it. Like a lot. 28%? Holy molly. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/67 "2019-08-04T13:34:16Z")
_Ishtar_ is a strange case. At the time it was released (in 1987), there was a lot of news about the fact that it had gone way over budget. Perhaps that influenced the popular and critical opinion at the time. It got a lot of bad reviews. It also got quite a few good reviews. It lost money at the box office. However, since then, the film has been re-evaluated by viewers and critics. Most people who’ve seen it recently think it’s reasonably good. I saw it when it came out, and I also think it’s reasonably good. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/68 "2019-08-04T14:47:56Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > _Ishtar_. One of the conditions of the question was “released since 2000.” ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/69 "2019-08-04T15:16:52Z")
_Gods of Egypt_. 15/37. I don’t particularly care about cultural appropriation or whitewashing. It’s cheesy, escapist fun, with beautiful visual effects. The Keanu Reeves version of _47 Ronin_. 15/48. Yes, I know, they took liberties with the historical facts. But you know what? The historical facts are few and far between. Most of what we think we know about the ronin, was written by poets, and dramatists, and people with social and political axes to grind. It has always been more myth than history. When the film-makers throw in supernatural monsters, in a twisted way, they are being more honest than most storytellers. And the supernatural elements fit in nicely with old folktales. I don’t know if heterochromatic eyes are a thing in Japanese lore, but shapeshifting foxes definitely are. The portrayal of the Tengu—living in a monastery, protecting orphans, teaching them martial arts—was quite faithful to the old folktales. The physical appearance of the Tengu was a bit strange, but down through the centuries, Japanese artists have depicted them far stranger. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/70 "2019-08-04T18:38:05Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > **DrDeth** , I was going to mention _John Carter_, but it turns out it’s over 50% on both scores. It was a flop, sure, but those who saw it still mostly liked it. I am happy, then. ---
**Author:** ![pohjonen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pohjonen/32/423_2.png) [@pohjonen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pohjonen)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/71 "2019-08-05T23:06:44Z")
[quote=“Sunshine\_and\_Smiles, post:59, topic:838082”] I’ll second “Year One.” It’s funny little vignettes. Yeah, it’s crass and a bit shoddy - but that’s comedy, amiri? And Jack Black’s response to “the holiest of holies” is gold/QUOTE] > [@](#): > > Abraham : No, no, no, trust me, it’s gonna be a very, very sleek look. This is gonna catch on. I’m gonna go get my good knife. Just wait right there. I’ll be right back to cut your penises. Not the whole thing, you understand. Just the very tip. And after, we’re all gonna have wine and sponge cake. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/72 "2019-08-06T02:19:36Z")
> [@salinqmind](#): > > I’ve always liked ‘Starship Troopers’ So did I, but it’s from 1997. It’s also rated 63% Tomatometer and 70% Audience Score, so DQ’d on two or three counts. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/73 "2019-08-06T02:26:18Z")
Personally, I thought both 2013’s [_Planes_](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/planes) (25% Tomatometer, 49% audience) and 2014’s [_Planes: Fire and Rescue_](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/planes_fire_and_rescue) (43% Tomatometer, though it scraped a 56% with the audience) were quite fun. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/74 "2019-08-06T02:42:43Z")
I just watched, today, the 2010 re-make of, “Clash of the Titans,” and really enjoyed it. It’s certainly no worse than having to sit through Mythology in junior high. The Bubo joke was worth the price of admission. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/75 "2019-08-06T08:37:45Z")
Constantine - not only do I like it, I own it. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/76 "2019-08-06T09:43:46Z")
I object to the original assertion about adult life being past 2000, it limits to people mid 30s. So I’d add Hudson Hawk in there 27/56, surprised the audience agreed as much with me. But using that criteria and list of flops, Monster Trucks (32/51), RIPD was fun (13/38), I really liked Tomorrowland (on the cusp, at 50/49), Super is close (49/55), and Wet Hot American Summer (36/76),. Not a fan (and pre 2000), but surprised to find Cocktail a big variation from critics and audience at 5/58 and same with St Elmo’s fire (44/68),. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/77 "2019-08-06T13:47:06Z")
Another one I’m not going to mention since it’s pre-2000 is [_The Villian_](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080097/). It has Kirk Douglas, Ann-Margret and Arnold Schwarzenegger. There’s 6 Oscar nominations and one win among them. Plus a host of character actors. Includes Paul Lynde as an Indian chief. Nothing wrong there! 0% at RT. And yet I find it a hoot and a half. But, like I said, can’t bring it up due to an arbitrary cutoff. (I get that you want a minimum number of reviews that older films night not have, but then just make that minimum the cutoff.) ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/78 "2019-08-06T13:58:55Z")
> [@Sunshine\_and\_Smiles](#): > > I’ll add 2001’s “Joe Dirt” - polling among critics at a dismal 11%. But I think it’s funny, and even more than that - had enough actual heart to make it work. Lovable loser sort of thing but it really does get you rooting for Joe. My favorite part is how he never quite lets anything get him down - even though by all means he should. I love the scene where he can’t believe the fireworks stand is only selling snakes and sparklers. I also thought Kid Rock turned in a good performance - I know people like that and it rang true. > > I believe I may have been waiting 18 years to talk that much about Joe Dirt… 😝 > [@Spoons](#): > > I’m with you. \*Joe Dirt \*is a favourite, simply because it has heart. Every possible thing that can go wrong has been thrown against Joe from day one–and yet, he remains cheerfully optimistic, and eventually succeeds. What’s not to like about that? I came in here to mention this movie and I will defend Joe Dirt to the death! I agree with everything written about it by the two of you. It’s a wonderfully heartening movie with some funny jokes and a happy ending. I defend most Adam Sandler/dumb comedies like that because they always end happily and you leave the movie feeling good. I’m surprised Battle: Los Angeles is scored that low, I also genuinely like the movie a lot and think it vastly underrated. ---
**Author:** ![YamatoTwinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/cc9497/32.png) [@YamatoTwinkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YamatoTwinkie)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/79 "2019-08-06T14:02:38Z")
King Arthur: Legend of the Sword (2017) for me. 31% on Rotten Tomatoes. I wouldn’t call it high cinema, but it’s an interesting British-gangster (Thanks Guy Ritchie) take on the story, with lots of fun action sequences and a pretty good soundtrack. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/80 "2019-08-06T14:16:02Z")
I gave up after about 5 movies I really love that I thought possibly might have too narrow an appeal all came back 80s-90s on Rotten Tomatoes. Though to be fair, all of them did score higher with critics than with viewers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082.md?page=5)