# Unpopular Positive Movie Opinion

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [August 2, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082 "2019-08-02T20:04:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/81 "2019-08-06T14:26:39Z")

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I think that “post-2000” and “post-adulthood” are meant to be two separate limitations, that just happen to coincide for a 30something. The post-adulthood limitation is to rule out movies that you liked as a kid because you had no taste and still like now because of nostalgia, and the post-2000 limitation is to ensure that there’s a critical consensus reflected on sites like Rotten Tomatoes. Yes, older movies can still have reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, but they’re going to be skewed towards those who have very strong feelings about the movie, one way or the other.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/82 "2019-08-06T14:29:07Z")

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> [@pmwgreen](#):
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> Odd Thomas (2013). From the maker of The Mummy (1999?). I thought the movie was intriguing, read the books as a result. On checking, I see it had 36% from the critics, but 65% from the rotten tomato audience. Does it have to be less than 50 on both?

I liked Odd Thomas a lot as well. I hadn’t seen it when it came out and I just happened to select it on Netflix shortly after Anton Yelchin’s death (not realizing at the time that he was in it). It did make watching the movie a little melancholy but I thought the movie was clever enough with a decent story. It doesn’t seem like it got a fair shake from the critics or audiences.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> _Power Rangers_ (2017) is at exactly 50%, which may or may not count.

This one was not bad either. I am not a Power Rangers fan but my son really liked them a lot when this came out. I thought it had some decent acting from the kids and good enough story building with them, Bryan Cranston is great in just about everything he does, and Elizabeth Banks is awesome hamming it up in green curvy armor. The CGI battle at the end is meh, but it’s not any worse than just about any other dumb CGI battle at the end of a movie.

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**Author:** ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/83 "2019-08-06T15:04:30Z")

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Am I the only one who thinks Freddy Got Fingered is a masterpiece?!!?  
Just kidding. I think I will have to go with Hudson Hawk, even if it is too old.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/84 "2019-08-06T16:52:42Z")

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I’ll submit:

Cowboys vs Aliens. 45/43 on RT. I liked it. Might even watch it again.

Dude, Where’s My Car? 17/47 I thought it was way cleverer than it was stupid. It may have been stupid, but it was smart stupid. (it’s also weird to watch the TV series Lethal Weapon and say, Hey that’s that guy from that stupid film! Sweet! Dude!)

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/85 "2019-08-06T16:54:30Z")

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The Do-Over with Adam Sandler and David Spade. Some of the jokes fall flat, but lots of the references are clever and it’s generally life-affirming dumb fun.

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/86 "2019-08-06T18:02:02Z")

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**The Adventures of Rocky & Bullwinkle** (2000)

44% CRITICS / 20% AUDIENCE SCORE

I laughed my ass off. I thought it did a good job keeping with the spirit of the cartoons. I even bought the DVD! And I watch it!

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/87 "2019-08-06T18:08:09Z")

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Technically too old, but I really liked Oscar, with Sly Stallone. 12% tomatometer, 63% audience score, so I’m not alone.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/88 "2019-08-06T18:31:12Z")

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OK, I could go with _Cowboys and Aliens_. I probably wouldn’t watch it again, but it was OK, and I didn’t feel like I wasted my time nor my ticket money. Though I’m sure it helped that I saw it at the on-campus second-run theater for a buck.

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**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/89 "2019-08-06T19:03:07Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Based on a recent XKCD [Comic](https://xkcd.com/2184/).
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> Name a movie that:
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> 1. You genuinely really like (not ironically).
> 2. Post 2000
> 3. Has less than 50% on Rotten Tomatoes
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> One of mine is easy since I just rewatched it again: Justice League. I genuinely enjoy this movie. Yes the DC Movie version of Superman sucks but that is really the only issue I have with it. The other characters are good to great. The plot is fine for a popcorn Superhero movie. I really like it and I am probably the only person who is sad they didn’t release Justice League 2 this year (as was the original plan).
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> What is yours?

Just saw 2012 DVD last night. This has a 39/47 % Rotten Tomatoes score. The first half hour in, I thought the writing was utter shite, the story was lame, and the effects were over the top. Somehow, I came to change my perspective and view it in an Independence Day/Sharknado frame of mind. Then it became enjoyable because of its flaws. I’d never call it high cinema, but sometimes we all have days when we’d like to see the world end in a spectacularly horrible way.

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/90 "2019-08-06T19:22:20Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> OK, I could go with _Cowboys and Aliens_. I probably wouldn’t watch it again, but it was OK, and I didn’t feel like I wasted my time nor my ticket money. Though I’m sure it helped that I saw it at the on-campus second-run theater for a buck.

I think the goal is to list a movie you “genuinely like,” not just thought was okay.

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/91 "2019-08-06T20:05:40Z")

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Put it this way: If I were rating the movie on Rotten Tomatoes, and had to give it either a thumbs-up or a thumbs-down (that being what we’re comparing our ratings to), I’d give it a thumbs-up. Maybe that means that I’m an easy grader, but I wouldn’t rate a movie thumbs-down unless I thought it were actually bad, worse than “just OK”.

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**Author:** ![Rocketeer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocketeer/32/4437_2.png) [@Rocketeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rocketeer)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/92 "2019-08-06T23:20:16Z")

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_ **The Core** _ (40% on RT). Exciting big-concept pulp adventure with enough courage to lampshade its absurdities (“I call it unobtainium.”) and not automatically pair off the male & female leads at the end.

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/93 "2019-08-07T12:53:55Z")

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> [@Rocketeer](#):
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> _ **The Core** _ (40% on RT). Exciting big-concept pulp adventure with enough courage to lampshade its absurdities (“I call it unobtainium.”) and not automatically pair off the male & female leads at the end.

And Stanley Tucci chewing scenery. I still remember his last line.

I’ve watched this with students just to laugh at how bad the science is. OK, everyone, if you see birds flying around randomly it’s because the core of the planet has flipped over…

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/94 "2019-08-07T13:57:53Z")

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\*The Lone Ranger (2013) \* was panned by critics (31% on RT), but I rather enjoyed it.

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/95 "2019-08-07T14:38:48Z")

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> [@Hermitian](#):
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> Am I the only one who thinks Freddy Got Fingered is a masterpiece?!!?  
> Just kidding. I think I will have to go with Hudson Hawk, even if it is too old.

Ditto. Hudson Hawk is the first movie I thought of, even though it’s from 1991. So what if they dubbed in Bruce Willis’s hair? It’s a funny movie with a great supporting cast. Willis and Aiello choreographing their heists to “When you wish upon a star” was inspiring. Darwin Mayflower reminded me of my friend Brett, who was just as flamboyantly evil. Butterfinger’s only line – “You want me to rape 'em?” – just worked so well in the context of the movie.

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/96 "2019-08-09T06:06:36Z")

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I guess I’ll be the first, and likely only, person to mention THE SPIRIT (2008, 14% RT) I saw it in the theater when it came out and loved the hell out of it. I saw it again recently and felt the same way. It’s hyper-stylized, superhero noir and is extremely my shit. I can totally understand why people would hate it, but not me. The most recent watch was even more fun since I’ve had years of seeing Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury and Scarlett Johansson as Black Widow, and it’s funny to see them in this as villains working together. I also have a soft spot for a hero who is just this side of being a crazy cat lady. He LOOOOVES cats! Also it, for me, would make a great double-feature with Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, because of the stylization, not the plot or characters.

Yes it’s silly, and probably very stupid too. Do I care? Nah. I will always love it.  
(I also like Speed Racer, The Book of Henry, Justice League and Batman vs Superman.)

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/97 "2019-08-09T16:24:50Z")

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> [@TimfromNapa](#):
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> Just saw 2012 DVD last night. This has a 39/47 % Rotten Tomatoes score. The first half hour in, I thought the writing was utter shite, the story was lame, and the effects were over the top. Somehow, I came to change my perspective and view it in an Independence Day/Sharknado frame of mind. Then it became enjoyable because of its flaws. I’d never call it high cinema, but sometimes we all have days when we’d like to see the world end in a spectacularly horrible way.

Some aspects of it were ridiculous, and not in a campy way, but yeah, overall it was pretty good fun, worth watching. Plus the Russian bloke was an interesting character.

I thought Rat Race, the 2001 comedy, was absolutely hilarious, but it’s 43/64%. Not spectularly low, but it deserves better.

Eagle Eye rates terribly with critics, at 27%, but it’s 62% with the audience. I really like it and have watched it about seven times. One of the critics is annoyed with the movie for blowing things up. What was he expecting, Hamlet?

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/98 "2019-08-09T16:50:14Z")

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Yoga Hosers - 24/34 on RT

Clerks (North) mixed with cheesy horror movie and apparently written while Kevin Smith was suffering from a post-bender hangover. It’s a fun kind of awful.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/99 "2019-08-10T14:13:24Z")

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Brought to mind when someone mentioned Speed Racer (40%). Then looked up the Ghost in the Shell (43%) remake with Scarlett Johanssen (who always seems to have some kind of campaign against her in the U.S.) (Remember Rotten Tomatoes skews _really_ American.))  
Tamala 2010: A Punk Cat in Space (2003) currently at 46%. [Tamala 2010: A Punk Cat in Space - Rotten Tomatoes](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/tamala_2010_a_punk_cat_in_space)

So much is working against this movie, like the above examples it’s rooted in a Japanese franchise, specifically the _black and white_ 1963 TV series _Astro Boy_. Along with Hello Kitty and a hundred other things it also references literature like Pynchon’s _The Crying of Lot 49_ and Oscar Wilde’s \*The Happy Prince \*. Admittedly a weird mix for one of the weirdest movies ever made, so I can excuse the soccer moms voting down because they thought it was a kids’ movie. There’s violence, the kind of cartoon violence that gets blamed for a lot of the world’s ills. It was also meant to be first in a series, so there are _a lot_ of loose ends.

The mounting scholarship on this one is definitely adult, so if phrases like “Of course, visualization of postmodern thoughts is another story. The artistic success of t.o.L lies in remixing the Derridean critique of negative theology, the Pynchonesque conspiracy theory and Henry Darger’s Outsider Art”\* turn you on, maybe we can get this up to 48% 😃 The amazing soundtrack is still on my .mp3 player too.

\*Tatsumi Tarayuki in _Cinema Anime_ edited by Stephen T. Brown

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpopular-positive-movie-opinion/838082/100 "2019-08-10T14:23:22Z")

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Just looked up _Liquid Sky_ which seemed like it might have been handicapped by a similarly limited audience, but it’s at 95% (!). I’m guessing this is from a new generation that discovered it on the Vinegar Syndrome Blu-ray reissue in 2017 and does not reflect what 1983 general audiences thought of it.

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