# Unprovable myths and loony theories **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 7, 2004, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186 "2004-01-07T10:59:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/1 "2004-01-07T10:59:15Z")
Occasionally, I like to immerse myself in the darker areas of the Web. [www.christianseparatist.org](http://www.christianseparatist.org) is such an area. Nothing but bigoted, idiotic, racist, white supremacist, Christian supremacist, closed-minded and downright stupid propaganda for pages and pages. Sometimes, when I don’t think too hard about the implications, I find it amusing. Most of the time, I find it scary. Today, I found it ridiculous. These people, who are Biblical literalists and believe (among other things) that Jesus was not a Jew, write > [@](#): > > It amazes me how people can believe totally unprovable myths and loony theories, and call Christians stupid for what we believe I’m not kidding. It’s right [here](http://www.christianseparatist.org/briefs/sb2.07.html). And I don’t know whether to laugh or lose the last shreds of my hope for humanity. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/2 "2004-01-07T11:27:12Z")
From the link: > [@](#): > > Adolf Hitler and the Germans are demeaned and satired and made fun of because they took art in Germany so seriously, whether painted art that hung in the public galleries, or performing art such as operas. Right, and Saddam is demeaned and satired because he likes Hemingway. My vote: laugh. It is, after all, funny. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/3 "2004-01-07T11:43:04Z")
Strange…I thought it was the Charlie Chaplin moustache and goose-stepping. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/4 "2004-01-08T01:33:09Z")
“Satired”? These people should be flogged. ---
**Author:** ![Krisfer\_the\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Krisfer\_the\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Krisfer_the_Cat)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/5 "2004-01-08T01:47:56Z")
Well this nonreligious person of undeclared beliefs finds ALL of Christianity unprovable myths and looney theories.😃 But hell thats half the fun of having those beliefs… ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/6 "2004-01-08T01:52:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Baldwin \* > \*\*“Satired”? These people should be flogged. \*\* Proof that grammar nazis trump neo-nazis any day of the week. ---
**Author:** ![Ringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Ringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ringo)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/7 "2004-01-08T03:02:51Z")
Another from the link: > [@](#): > > In that noble, social experiment known as the Third Reich… Is that what they mean by “paradigm shift?” ---
**Author:** ![OneYogini](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b9e5f3/32.png) [@OneYogini](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneYogini)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/8 "2004-01-08T03:34:09Z")
Priceguy. Please take this into consideration…the term “Christian” is broadly used and abused. Ask a variety of people what they believe what being a “Christian” means, you’ll get a variety of answers to be sure. “Extremists” in any “religion” are almost always out of line with what the core group believes in certain areas or possibly out of line completely with the core group (thus “extremists” lol!). I quote you now…“I don’t know whether to laugh or lose the last shreds of my hope for humanity.” I would suggest that if you are at that point and really feel the need to find true hope for humanity, you do some research and find the “truth” for yourself. (Eww I didn’t mean for that to sound all “Mulder”-ish!) Much love. Yogini 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/9 "2004-01-08T04:19:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ringo \* > \*\*Is that what they mean by “paradigm shift?” \*\* No, I think it’s what they mean by “delusional idiots.” ---
**Author:** ![\_possum\_stalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/b77776/32.png) [@\_possum\_stalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_possum_stalker)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/10 "2004-01-08T04:30:46Z")
“There was one true Christian, and he died on the cross.” -Nietzsche ---
**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/11 "2004-01-08T05:18:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Priceguy \* > \*\*Occasionally, I like to immerse myself in the darker areas of the Web. I think that kind of immersion is not good, unless you are a federal agent looking for stolen explosives or some other work related task. Knowing it is there is more than enough for me. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/12 "2004-01-08T11:12:38Z")
**OneYogini** , what’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/13 "2004-01-08T11:34:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Priceguy \* > \*\ ***OneYogini** , what’s your point? \*\* I think **OneYogini** has a prejudice against extremists. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/14 "2004-01-08T11:36:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jjimm \* > \*\*I think **OneYogini** has a prejudice against extremists. \*\* Don’t we all? ---
**Author:** ![Jervoise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@Jervoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jervoise)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/15 "2004-01-08T11:49:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Priceguy \* > \*\*Today, I found it ridiculous. These people, who are Biblical literalists and believe (among other things) that Jesus was not a Jew, write I’m not kidding. It’s right [here](http://www.christianseparatist.org/briefs/sb2.07.html). And I don’t know whether to laugh or lose the last shreds of my hope for humanity. \*\* Your lingering hope for humanity was dashed by a tiny group of Christian loonies? Your faith in the rest of us hung on a mere thread that was a misapprehension that there are NO nutjobs on–of all places–the _internet_? _That’s_ more disturbing than the linked site! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/16 "2004-01-08T11:54:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jervoise \* > **Your lingering hope for humanity was dashed by a tiny group of Christian loonies? Your faith in the rest of us hung on a mere thread that was a misapprehension that there are NO nutjobs on–of all places–the _internet_?** There are nutjobs and there are nutjobs. These guys are extreme, but what they display is merely the final conclusion of tendencies I observe in most human beings on a daily basis. People are fucking idiots, and getting it confirmed like this does nothing for my hope in humanity. ---
**Author:** ![Jervoise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@Jervoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jervoise)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/17 "2004-01-08T12:06:57Z")
\ I don’t think people are fucking idiots; I think most people try their best to be as good as they can be, most of the time. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/18 "2004-01-08T12:16:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jervoise \* > \*\*I don’t think people are fucking idiots; I think most people try their best to be as good as they can be, most of the time. \*\* I’m sure they do. That doesn’t make them non-idiots, though. ---
**Author:** ![OneYogini](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b9e5f3/32.png) [@OneYogini](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneYogini)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/19 "2004-01-08T17:24:45Z")
I don’t know that there was an actual “point”. I commented about loose use of the term “Christian” by people most would consider “extremists”. Then I suggested you research for yourself “truth” if your hopes in humanity had been truly dashed. If you have a specific question about my post, I’ll gladly try to answer it. Now to quote you again, PriceGuy, “These guys are extreme, but what they display is merely the final conclusion of tendencies I observe in most human beings on a daily basis.” My question to you is, do you seriously believe that the “extremists” you discuss in the OP display “the final conclusion of tendencies” you “observe in most human beings on a daily basis”? What kind of people are you around on a daily basis? You should keep better company. You think, I guess from that comment, that “most human beings” lean toward the tendency of extremism? Can I ask why you think that? 🙂 Yogini ---
**Author:** ![The\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@The\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Face)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unprovable-myths-and-loony-theories/223186/20 "2004-01-08T17:29:52Z")
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