# Unpunished Government atrocities **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 19, 2009, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpunished-government-atrocities/490078 "2009-03-19T21:48:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jakesteele](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@jakesteele](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jakesteele)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpunished-government-atrocities/490078/1 "2009-03-19T21:48:25Z")
[http://www.rense.com/general36/history.htm](http://www.rense.com/general36/history.htm) [http://www.all-natural.com/part-3b.html](http://www.all-natural.com/part-3b.html) [http://www.whale.to/a/cantwell9.html](http://www.whale.to/a/cantwell9.html) > **[Human medical experimentation in the United States: The shocking true history...](https://www.naturalnews.com/019189.html)** > > Human medical experimentation in the United States: The shocking true history of modern medicine and psychiatry (1833-1965) [http://www.apfn.org/apfn/experiment.htm](http://www.apfn.org/apfn/experiment.htm) [A SHORT HISTORY OF US GOVERNMENT RESPECT FOR HUMAN LIFE](http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/biowar.html), etc., etc., etc…… I am fascinated and horrified at the same time about the phenomena of our Govt. having committed atrocities and crimes against humanity pretty much with impunity and nobody wanting to call the Govt. to task on this. I’ve heard people say, “Well, that was then and this is now.” Or I hear them say, “Our Govt. would never do anything like that to its own people!” A lot of the above links have overlap on the same atrocities but you get a pretty clear picture of what I’m getting at. I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch to ask what might they possibility be doing now based on a sordid history of having been systematically doing these things all along. The individual psychology and social psychology involved is what intrigues me the most. 1. A psychological defense mechanism in which confrontation with a personal problem or with reality is avoided by denying the existence of the problem or reality 2. Denial is a defense mechanism in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. The subject may deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether (simple denial), admit the fact but deny its seriousness (minimization) or admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility. An example I will use cigarettes. People are usually in ‘simple denial’ about spending good money to slowly poison yourself to death but minimizing it to continue on and not have to fight the addiction, and the underlying issues that one has that the cigarettes are covering up and dulling. So I ask these questions: 1. Based on past history, do you think they might be committing atrocities now to its people? 2. What should the people do to find out and call them to task about it? 3. What would you do if it happened to you or a loved one? ---
**Author:** ![Burton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Burton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Burton)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpunished-government-atrocities/490078/2 "2009-03-20T14:10:45Z")
This is why tinfoil hats are popular these days. I think its less likely that the government is putting people at risk without their knowledge today. However, I wouldn’t put it past the private sector. ---
**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpunished-government-atrocities/490078/3 "2009-03-20T15:17:21Z")
While I would assume that most educated Americans are aware that the eugenics movement existed in our country, I wonder how many people are aware of the full extent of it. The notion that certain races had been proven to be biologically inferior was the driving force behind a considerable amount of federal government policy and was endorsed by numerous “independent” organizations. This was not ancient history, but something that dominated the early 20th century and lasted into the 40’s. Not surprisingly, black people were always “proven” to be the lowest order. When operating under such an ideology, it’s no surprise that many people were able to justify scientific experimentation on blacks during that era. ---
**Author:** ![jakesteele](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@jakesteele](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jakesteele)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unpunished-government-atrocities/490078/4 "2009-03-20T15:17:40Z")
> [@Burton](#): > > This is why tinfoil hats are popular these days. I think its less likely that the government is putting people at risk without their knowledge today. However, I wouldn’t put it past the private sector. My tinfoil hat works really well. They haven’t been able to remotely program me yet. True, the Govt. is under the lense more than in the past and I wouldn’t put anything past certain aspects of the private sector.