# Unregistered bull, how about defecating here instead? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 2, 2005, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673 "2005-09-02T01:49:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Unregistered\_Bull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3da27b/32.png) [@Unregistered\_Bull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unregistered_Bull)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/181 "2005-09-03T13:52:06Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > PF’s husband is doing what he can, within his ability. I know there are pet people, and people that can’t seem to make the connection. But to lambaste someone that is trying to help is heartless. Unless there is a sincere belief that the type help will be more of a hinderance than a help. I admit that I was an asshole in MPSMIS. But there is no way that anyone could convince me that my opinions are wrong on this. ---
**Author:** ![liberty3701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@liberty3701](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liberty3701)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/182 "2005-09-03T13:52:21Z")
> [@Unregistered Bull](#): > > You and the majority of people on this thread simply lack a functioning moral compass. If your the pinacle of a “functioning moral compass” than I’m glad mine is off kilter. And I believe calling **Dorkness** a “lying sack of shit” counts as making up lies about him. But that’s just my malfunctioning moral compass speaking, after all, so take it with a grain of salt. ---
**Author:** ![Pixisis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@Pixisis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixisis)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/183 "2005-09-03T13:58:22Z")
> [@Unregistered Bull](#): > > But anyone with a functioning moral compass doesn’t waste resources on animals at a time when humans are in dire need of those resources. then clearly your own moral compass is not fully functional, because you said you don’t have a pet because: > [@Unregistered Bull](#): > > I don’t feel like I could give a dog the room that one deserves. and not because you would rather donate the money you would spend on pet care to charities that would help any of the millions of starving people in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/184 "2005-09-03T14:00:12Z")
**Ungregistered Bull** is a waste of resources. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/185 "2005-09-03T14:00:31Z")
> [@Unregistered Bull](#): > > Sure I shouldn’t have shit on the threads where people were expressing more compassion for animals than that of humans. Well, you’re half right. You shouldn’t have shit on the thread. > [@UB](#): > > You and the majority of people on this thread simply lack a functioning moral compass. PFs husband is doing what he can. He can help save some animals. So that’s what he’s doing. How fucking dare you question the morals of those that are using their time and money to provied relief. It all needs to be done you jackass. ---
**Author:** ![Unregistered\_Bull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3da27b/32.png) [@Unregistered\_Bull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unregistered_Bull)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/186 "2005-09-03T14:06:18Z")
> [@OtakuLoki](#): > > When is acceptable to use resources for animals? During the past year there was the tsunami, and during this time frame the genocide going on in the Sudan has continued. Homeless persons abound. Zimbabwe is committing crimes against humanity against it’s own poor. And millions of Americans, even taxpayers, are paying for pet care, and animal shelters. It’s not acceptable in this national disaster at this stage while humans are a great risk IMO. I don’t think that tax dollars should be wasted overly on animal welfare. Honestly, if there was a animal welfare organization that didn’t want to outlaw some part of hunting, trapping, fishing, rodeo, religous expression (Santería, etc.), or commercial livestock and poultry raising and slaughter. I wouldn’t be that hard on them. People think that I hate animals, that couldn’t be further from the truth. I do hate this trend of making them more and more equal to humans. It endangers the livelihoods and cultural traditions of many people. I endangers the scientific community’s medical research. It increases food prices. This ignoring of human disaster in this terrible event to focus on animals is another symptom of an animal welfare / animal rights that is out of control. ---
**Author:** ![Unregistered\_Bull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3da27b/32.png) [@Unregistered\_Bull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unregistered_Bull)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/187 "2005-09-03T14:08:34Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Well, you’re half right. You shouldn’t have shit on the thread. > > PFs husband is doing what he can. He can help save some animals. So that’s what he’s doing. > > How fucking dare you question the morals of those that are using their time and money to provied relief. It all needs to be done you jackass. It’s easy. He’s going down there to contribute to the waste of resources. Animals aren’t important to the people are out. I’m sorry that you feel that they are more important or as important as the humans. It doesn’t bode well for your soul. ---
**Author:** ![Unregistered\_Bull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3da27b/32.png) [@Unregistered\_Bull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unregistered_Bull)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/188 "2005-09-03T14:13:26Z")
> [@Pixisis](#): > > and not because you would rather donate the money you would spend on pet care to charities that would help any of the millions of starving people in the world. I don’t know that you’ve noticed. But we have a huge natural disaster that has killed thousands of PEOPLE that has displaced more than a million PEOPLE from homes and jobs in the US. It’s hard to feel sorry for animals in this case. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/189 "2005-09-03T14:14:40Z")
> [@Unregistered Bull](#): > > You lieing sack shit. I’ve never told a lie about you. You never confronted me with nothing to refute them. Sure I shouldn’t have shit on the threads where people were expressing more compassion for animals than that of humans. Flame me all you want for that. But anyone with a functioning moral compass doesn’t waste resources on animals at a time when humans are in dire need of those resources. You and the majority of people on this thread simply lack a functioning moral compass. Naturally I don’t make charges that I can’t back up. If anyone gives a shit about this liar’s continuing lies about me, they’re invited to check out [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=325999&page=2&pp=50&highlight=hsus), starting with post 61 and paying especial attention to the offer I made to the liar in post 99. That offer still stands, but I’m sure that Bull, ever the coward, will still refuse to accept it. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/190 "2005-09-03T14:17:42Z")
> [@Unregistered Bull](#): > > Unless there is a sincere belief that the type help will be more of a hinderance than a help. I admit that I was an asshole in MPSMIS. But there is no way that anyone could convince me that my opinions are wrong on this. How in the hell do you think that this could possibly be a hindrance? PF’s husband is not planning on wading into NO with a couple of leashes. I’m sure he will try to relieve some functioning shelters of the pressure of pets and strays that are about to come in. PEOPLE work in those animal shelters. PEOPLE that also need relief. ---
**Author:** ![Pixisis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@Pixisis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixisis)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/191 "2005-09-03T14:18:05Z")
> [@Unregistered Bull](#): > > I don’t know that you’ve noticed. But we have a huge natural disaster that has killed thousands of PEOPLE that has displaced more than a million PEOPLE from homes and jobs in the US. It’s hard to feel sorry for animals in this case. yes. i’ve noticed. and i’ve done what i can from overseas. i’m just pointing out **your** lack of consistency. but, you completely missed my point. ---
**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/192 "2005-09-03T14:18:35Z")
**Unregistered bull** , You have had an effect on me, albeit not the one you intended. I gave what I thought I could afford to the Red Cross early, but you’ve motivated me to dig deeper, and I’ve now donated several hundred dollars to animal rescue groups. I’m making some sacrifices to do this, and guess what? I don’t feel evil or vile or any of the other descriptions you’ve flung. I feel good. I’m doing what I can, in the way I feel is appropriate. The hurricane has created an enormous pit of need, and there’s room for positive action and generosity of all kinds. Rage, hate and insults contribute nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/193 "2005-09-03T14:20:25Z")
Man. In my years of advocating animal welfare positions on this board, I have never done a tenth as much to help the cause as **Unregistered Bull** has done in just a couple of days. I am humbled. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Amazon\_Floozy\_Goddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/779978/32.png) [@Amazon\_Floozy\_Goddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amazon_Floozy_Goddess)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/194 "2005-09-03T14:27:13Z")
> [@Unregistered Bull](#): > > I don’t know that you’ve noticed. But we have a huge natural disaster that has killed thousands of PEOPLE that has displaced more than a million PEOPLE from homes and jobs in the US. It’s hard to feel sorry for animals in this case. Instead of pissing and moaning about the people being more important, why don’t you drag your ass away from the computer and go help them, if you care about them so much? Just a thought. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/195 "2005-09-03T14:40:04Z")
From the OP in MPSIMS - > [@pinkfreud](#): > > My husband is making plans to drive to Louisiana with several members of an animal rescue organization to which we belong. **He’ll be driving this bus filled with food, water, clothing, and first aid supplies, and will return with a load of homeless pets in need of adoption.** I don’t know yet exactly when he will leave. I cannot go because this will require stamina, and I am very ill. > > I am deeply proud of my husband, but I am also worried. Prayers and good wishes would be very much appreciated… Bolding mine He is VOLUNTEERING to drive a bus filled with food, water, clothing, and first aid supplies. They will bring back homeless pets because that’s what they can do. How fucking dare you shit on these people. > [@UB](#): > > It’s easy. He’s going down there to contribute to the waste of resources. Animals aren’t important to the people are out. I’m sorry that you feel that they are more important or as important as the humans. It doesn’t bode well for your soul. You lieing sack of shit. I never said anything of the kind. > [@UB](#): > > Animals aren’t important to the people are out. Bullshit. Of course they are. You’re a sad sad man. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/196 "2005-09-03T15:30:10Z")
Does **UB** post about anything besides his “pet” issue? Or do we have another **Jack Dean Tyler** -type situation here? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/197 "2005-09-03T15:54:56Z")
> [@UB](#): > > Honestly, if there was a animal welfare organization that didn’t want to outlaw some part of hunting, trapping, fishing, rodeo, religous expression (Santería, etc.), or commercial livestock and poultry raising and slaughter. I wouldn’t be that hard on them. Here’s one you stupid shit. And there are plenty more like them. [Homeward Bound](http://www.homewardboundrescueco.com) From the site - What We Do: Locate individual foster homes. Work with other rescue organizations. Transport of animals. I suspect that PF and her Husband are involved with this type of non-profit non-political group. We got our two dogs from these folks. They focus primarily on abandoned ranch and farm dogs. ---
**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/198 "2005-09-03T15:56:03Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > Does **UB** post about anything besides his “pet” issue? Or do we have another **Jack Dean Tyler** -type situation here? No one wants to slog through his past posts to find out. I’m curious to know why a person with such an obsessive hatred of animals chose a user name with an animal in it. ---
**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/199 "2005-09-03T15:56:34Z")
> [@Unregistered Bull](#): > > It’s easy. He’s going down there to contribute to the waste of resources. Animals aren’t important to the people are out. I’m sorry that you feel that they are more important or as important as the humans. It doesn’t bode well for your soul. I don’t recall seeing any suggestion by anyone (other than yourself) that anyone believes animals are the equal of humans. Could you show me, please? As I’ve said before, they have a non-zero value, so they deserve **some** assistance. Clearly people deserve more assistance than animals, and they are certainly getting MASSIVELY more help than the animals. The fact that somebody gives $1 to charity A and $100 to charity B (or provides 100 times more assistance in any capacity) does not imply that they value charity A more than charity B because they didn’t give ALL their donations to charity B. UB - when are you selling your computer and donating the proceeds to a disaster relief fund (after checking of course that no portion goes to helping animals)? Do you value your **computer** more than a person?! :eek: The proceeds from selling your computer might be just that little bit extra that saves a life! One final note - I know some people are helping animals almost exclusively during this catastrophe. Fine. That still doesn’t indicate that they value animals more than people. I’m quite sure they know that many more people are helping people exclusively, and that they far outnumber the people helping animals, so they are comfortable dedicating their own resources to animals. The fact that I can anticipate what others will do affects how I give, and I’m sure it affects how most people give. You really need to get that black-and-white colourblindness checked into! ---
**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/200 "2005-09-03T15:58:32Z")
> [@Unregistered Bull](#): > > It’s easy. He’s going down there to contribute to the waste of resources. Animals aren’t important to the people are out. I’m sorry that you feel that they are more important or as important as the humans. It doesn’t bode well for your soul. You fucking clap ridden worthless sack of bat shit. Who in the fuck do you think you are to even fucking discuss the state of someone’s soul? You can sit there at your fucking computer and shit all over people who are trying to help and feel superior all you want but you are in no way qualified to even think about the state of someone elses soul. How do I know that? Because you do not have a drop of compassion in your pus-filled brain. People are doing their best to help in any way they are qualified for so the **people who are qualified to help people can do just that.** I guess it’s too much for your empty brain to conceive that there is a LOT that needs doing in the area that has been destroyed. I really don’t know why I am typing this, as I realize it won’t sink into the rock that sits on your shoulders. I was just completely stunned that you would be stupid enought to think you have the qualifications to comment on the state of someones soul. Considering that I don’t believe you have one, and the lack of comprehension you have shown when people have tried to explain things to your idiot self, I shouldn’t be suprised. You are a fucking waste of AIR, you pile of rotting fish guts. Do us all a favor and quit breathing, will you? You’re wasting resources. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673.md?page=11)