# Unregistered bull, how about defecating here instead? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 2, 2005, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673 "2005-09-02T01:49:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![davenportavenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@davenportavenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davenportavenger)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/341 "2005-09-06T15:45:16Z")
Okay, **uglybeech** , here is what I am saying. When the original post started, the disaster was less than twenty-four hours old. We had an estimated death count of 70,000 (which turned out to be overinflated, thank god). We had reports of newborn infants dying by the hundreds because their mothers couldn’t be evacuated fast enough, serial rapes, mass murder. So then someone, in the midst of all this tragedy, comes in and says “won’t someone think of the puppies?” If it had come later in the disaster, say after we knew the true (human) death count, or had gotten the majority of the trapped people out (at this point, there were still thousands of people stuck in the city, on their roofs, in their attics… some are still there but it is not as critical), there would not have been the same response, at least not from me. If a “save the animals” thread had been posted TODAY, after the situation has been more or less stabilized, I would have either not posted to the thread or posted words of encouragement. But is was posted less than twenty-four hours after the hurricane struck land. At that point, I had just read the estimated death count of 70,000, and I’m sorry, but to worry about animals when SO MANY people, an entire cityful, might be dead seems inappropriate and crass. So then people come in talking about all the ways they’d like to torture the pittee, and saying those of us who are thinking about that supposed 70,000 are loveless ice queens and kings, and then people started getting really off topic and talking about chimp DNA or whatever, and it’s just really frustrating. Because when this thread was posted, we all thought the worst about what had happened to the city, and some people’s first priority was the pets. We were facing a disaster that dwarfed (and probably still dwarfs) 9/11, one that some of us thought would approach the tsunami, and people are talking about pets. And now you, and others, are coming in and trying to codify a set of rules based on something I said when I thought there were thousands upon thousands of dead people floating down the Mississippi, try to make me seem ridiculous and unemotional when in fact my response to the thread WAS an emotional one, fueled by the emotion of thinking there were 70,000 dead people out there, and seeing people think about the animals first. But this isn’t an apology for something said in haste, because I meant everything I said. At the time I thought there were 70,000 dead and so did probably a few other people on this board. Do you know how high a number that is? Of course, I know they’re just dumb Southern coloreds, not real people like you and me, but they look enough like us that, I don’t know, I got a little teary-eyed. Oh but wait, I’m a Vulcan, I have no emotions because I can see a rational reason why a little boy wouldn’t be allowed to take his dog on a rescue bus. > [@Contrapuntal](#): > > davenportavenger. Can I assume that your lack of response indicates that you are unable to support your assertion of the aforementioned phenomenon, and that you are in no position to make such judgements? Are you saying you’ve never met a crazy dog lady, the inverse of the cat lady, someone who has one little lap dog and spends thousands of dollars on designer clothes for it and forsakes time with her children to play with the dog then leaves the dog her fortune in her will? I envy you. Okay, maybe it’s not a very common phenomenon, but it happens. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/342 "2005-09-06T16:03:41Z")
> [@davenportavenger](#): > > but to worry about animals when SO MANY people, an entire cityful, might be dead seems inappropriate and crass. To me, worrying about other people showing compassion for any living thing is always inappropriate and crass. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/343 "2005-09-06T16:10:21Z")
> [@davenportavenger](#): > > Are you saying you’ve never met a crazy dog lady, the inverse of the cat lady, someone who has one little lap dog and spends thousands of dollars on designer clothes for it and forsakes time with her children to play with the dog then leaves the dog her fortune in her will? I envy you. Okay, maybe it’s not a very common phenomenon, but it happens. I’ve never net one but I grant you they exist. If it is so uncommon, why do you state it as the basis of your objection? And where do you get off making a diagnosis of pathological devotion? Methinks your crazy lady is made of straw. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/344 "2005-09-06T16:40:26Z")
Interesting story in the N.Y. Times Sunday Magazine this past weekend about animal intelligence. According to one impressive-sounding research study, dogs have certain powers of intelligence denied to higher anthropoids. It was found that dogs comprehended what was meant by pointing at something and responding by investigating, while apes didn’t get the meaning of pointing. The theory was that by evolving with man over so many years, dogs had become especially attuned to divining their pack leaders’ thoughts and intentions. > [@davenportavenger](#): > > Oh holy fuck. I HAVE HAD pets, okay? And I did love them! We should be appalled at this. It clearly demonstrates false projection of human emotion onto lower-order mammalians, and by its very existence denied other humans the love they deserved. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/345 "2005-09-06T16:57:40Z")
> [@davenportavenger](#): > > \>snip\< > So then someone, in the midst of all this tragedy, comes in and says “won’t someone think of the puppies?” > > \>snip\< Bullshit. **Pinkfreud** started a thread saying that her husband was going (with an animal welfare group) to take clothing and supplies to NO and try to bring back some rescued animals. **Unregistered Bull** started shitting in the thread and this thread was started for him. At least try to keep track of what you’re bitching about. It’s a shame you can’t tell the difference between the “crazy cat lady” and people who have compassion for other living things, no matter the species. ---
**Author:** ![liberty3701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@liberty3701](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liberty3701)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/346 "2005-09-06T17:05:28Z")
> [@Snakescatlady](#): > > Bullshit. **Pinkfreud** started a thread saying that her husband was going (with an animal welfare group) to take clothing and supplies to NO and try to bring back some rescued animals. **Unregistered Bull** started shitting in the thread and this thread was started for him. > > At least try to keep track of what you’re bitching about. It’s a shame you can’t tell the difference between the “crazy cat lady” and people who have compassion for other living things, no matter the species. GET OUT OF MY HEAD! I was gonna write the same thing, only less intelligible. So, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/347 "2005-09-06T17:20:36Z")
And to clarify **davenportavenger** , the inverse of a crazy cat lady would be a sane dog man. Or something. ---
**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/348 "2005-09-07T15:12:06Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > And to clarify **davenportavenger** , the inverse of a crazy cat lady would be a sane dog man. Or something. Hmm…I don’t think so. For all X, if X is a lady and X is crazy and X loves cat excessively, then X is a crazy cat lady The inverse of the above statement shall be: For all X, if X is not a lady or X is not crazy or X does not loves cat excessively, then X is not a crazy cat lady. After all, I don’t think the opposite of a cat is a dog. _Sorry, spending too much time on mathematics._ ---
**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/349 "2005-09-07T16:17:39Z")
Anyone stranded in New Orleans or @ SD who read [this](http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/341841p-291881c.html): > [@](#): > > Even the dolphins from the beachside Marine Life park had to be evacuated. They rode out the storm at the pool in the town’s Best Western motel Would rightfully have flames coming from their blowholes ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/350 "2005-09-07T16:33:44Z")
> [@JohnBckWLD](#): > > Anyone stranded in New Orleans or @ SD who read [this](http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/341841p-291881c.html):Would rightfully have flames coming from their blowholes And why should the people at Marine Life Park have said, “fuck the dolphins”? ---
**Author:** ![liberty3701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@liberty3701](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liberty3701)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/351 "2005-09-07T16:55:14Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > And why should the people at Marine Life Park have said, “fuck the dolphins”? Hmm … people whose job it is to take care of dolphins made sure the dolphins were OK. What is this world coming to?! Won’t someone think of the children?! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/352 "2005-09-07T16:59:38Z")
> [@liberty3701](#): > > Hmm … people whose job it is to take care of dolphins made sure the dolphins were OK. What is this world coming to?! Won’t someone think of the children?! 😛 Maybe there were HUMAN BEINGS who could have stayed in that swimmiing pool for eight days. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/353 "2005-09-07T17:01:49Z")
> [@ExtraKun](#): > > Hmm…I don’t think so. > > For all X, if X is a lady and X is crazy and X loves cat excessively, then X is a crazy cat lady > > The inverse of the above statement shall be: For all X, if X is not a lady or X is not crazy or X does not loves cat excessively, then X is not a crazy cat lady. > > After all, I don’t think the opposite of a cat is a dog. > > _Sorry, spending too much time on mathematics._ Well I did say or something. And the opposite of lady is not man. So there. ---
**Author:** ![liberty3701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@liberty3701](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liberty3701)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/354 "2005-09-07T17:13:28Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > Maybe there were HUMAN BEINGS who could have stayed in that swimmiing pool for eight days. And DROWNED?! A big hole in the ground is a bad place for land mammals to be in a hurricane. Jesus. I’ve stated before and I’ll state it again: I don’t beleive that human life is somehow more precious than animal life, and you ain’t gonna change my mind. ---
**Author:** ![liberty3701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@liberty3701](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liberty3701)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/355 "2005-09-07T17:16:29Z")
And furthermore, the dolphins being moved did not, to my knowledge, impede the evacuation of people, so how is it harming anyone? Why is it wrong to help animals when it’s not hurting people? Saving a dolphin doesn’t mean you killed a child. Yeesh. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/356 "2005-09-07T17:21:55Z")
> [@liberty3701](#): > > And DROWNED?! A big hole in the ground is a bad place for land mammals to be in a hurricane. > > Jesus. > > I’ve stated before and I’ll state it again: I don’t beleive that human life is somehow more precious than animal life, and you ain’t gonna change my mind. You seem to suffer from irony deficiency. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/357 "2005-09-07T17:24:17Z")
Ha! I KNEW you were pooling my leg! Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/358 "2005-09-07T17:27:11Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > Ha! I KNEW you were pooling my leg! > Daniel Uh, no. That was my dog. Sorry. Here. Let me wash that for you. Rex! I told you to wat 'till we got home! ---
**Author:** ![liberty3701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@liberty3701](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liberty3701)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/359 "2005-09-07T17:28:53Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > You seem to suffer from irony deficiency. After I wrote that, I realized I was very confused. You make a very convincing idiot. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/360 "2005-09-07T17:48:27Z")
> [@liberty3701](#): > > After I wrote that, I realized I was very confused. > > You make a very convincing idiot. 😛 Practice makes perfect. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673.md?page=19)