# Unregistered bull, how about defecating here instead?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 2, 2005, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673 "2005-09-02T01:49:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Unregistered\_Bull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3da27b/32.png) [@Unregistered\_Bull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unregistered_Bull)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/61 "2005-09-02T11:38:33Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Perhaps this will help. Having compassion for animals does not mean that we have any less for humans. We have an unlimited supply. It’s sort of like love. The more you give away, the more you have left. The person did a kind thing- but it’s not like he’s using up some sort of quota of kindness. He’s got plenty left where that came from.

We’re talking about resources and diverting resources from humans not compassion. You can feel sorry for them, but help the people that are need not the animals.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/62 "2005-09-02T11:42:01Z")

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> [@Unregistered Bull](#):
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> Rude? I pointed out the cold, hard truth. Now some like you and most on this thread are just too fucking stupid to realize that it is the truth. Really, you and your are most stupid people on here. You are also the most devoid of compassion toward your fellow man. You’re all really disgusting people. Truly evil people.

The truth? You’re showing us the cold hard truth?

You egotistical fuck. You worthless pile of feces. “Pointing out the truth.” :dubious: He’s bringing supplies to New Orleans and taking the animals on the way back. From the first post in the other thread.

> [@pinkfreud](#):
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> He’ll be driving this bus filled with\*\* food, water, clothing, and first aid supplies\*\*

They are going to help the fucking humans you colossal waste of oxygen. Who in the fuck are you to question what they are doing to help? Where the fuck do you get off questioning what they are doing to help the victims?

In my entire time on the board, I have never ever ever seen such complete and utter stupidity. I have never seen anything that has pissed me off this much. Unregistered Bull, fuck off.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/63 "2005-09-02T11:42:16Z")

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> [@Unregistered Bull](#):
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> We’re talking about resources and diverting resources from humans not compassion. You can feel sorry for them, but help the people that are need not the animals.

And kindly explain how that was a diversion of resources.

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**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/64 "2005-09-02T11:43:20Z")

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> [@Unregistered Bull](#):
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> We’re talking about resources and diverting resources from humans not compassion. You can feel sorry for them, but help the people that are need not the animals.

Despite what you might think. life is not a zero-sum game. So no, that’s not what anyone is talking about. Except you, apparently.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/65 "2005-09-02T12:02:25Z")

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Would calling him a one trick pony be an insult to ponies?

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6535731&postcount=15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6535731&postcount=15)

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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/66 "2005-09-02T12:05:14Z")

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[And now he’s spreading it to utterly unrelated threads.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=332960)

What the hell is wrong with you? Seriously, was pissing all over the first “Look at how my hubby’s helping man at beast alike, wish him good luck!” thread not enough for you. Has this lively conversation not sated your peculiar dementia? Did you really need to advance your bizarre agenda in a thread that has only the barest relevance (it does mention both NO and animals, after all) to this topic?

And you wonder why we’re jumping up your ass?

(On preview, I was beat to the link, but I’ve still got something to say)

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**Author:** ![Unregistered\_Bull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3da27b/32.png) [@Unregistered\_Bull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unregistered_Bull)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/67 "2005-09-02T12:06:14Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> And kindly explain how that was a diversion of resources.

If you are too fucking stupid to figure it out. And it appears that most in this thread are, then trying to explain it would be a futile gesture.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/68 "2005-09-02T12:08:07Z")

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> [@Unregistered Bull](#):
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> If you are too fucking stupid to figure it out. And it appears that most in this thread are, then trying to explain it would be a futile gesture.

For some reason, an insult from you causes me little pain.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/69 "2005-09-02T12:15:39Z")

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Yeah, it really is a stupid thing to bitch about. On the other hand, I read that other thread, and “furbabies”? “Kitty-poo”? You have to admit that’s disgustingly cutesy.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/70 "2005-09-02T12:30:56Z")

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I’ve just made a donation to the Human Society in **Unregistered Bull** ’s name.

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/71 "2005-09-02T12:53:25Z")

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> [@honeydewgrrl](#):
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> Like I said in my response, UB is a fucking ass, and yes, he is CHILDISH. I “got” (and agree with) the underlying motive of your statement. But it is a motive that can be reached without being sexist.

I want you, grrl, but your wide-eyed innocence has really messed up my mind. Yeah. I’d rather you get your very first heartbreak somewhere else along the line.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/72 "2005-09-02T12:54:37Z")

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> [@Unregistered Bull](#):
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> It’s obvious that y’all are beyond help when it comes to logic or realizing that caring for human beings is more important than caring for animals.

Caring for humans is also more important than wasting your time posting on an internet message board, so why are you here at all?

Just because A is more important than B, doesn’t mean we can’t do B at all, or doing B necessarily means neglecting A; your dichotomous reasoning is flawed.  
We all have a system of priorities, and yet we all somehow manage to get more things done than just the one on the top of the list.

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/73 "2005-09-02T12:59:42Z")

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I’m convinced **Unregistered Bull** is a bot. No matter what you say, you’ll get the same “Zero sum! Zero sum! If you help an animal you think they’re more important than humans! Zero sum! You’re diverting resources from humans! Zero sum!” response. It HAS to be a script.

The bot script is on auto-pilot now, too, and trolling in other unrelated threads.

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**Author:** ![SlyFrog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SlyFrog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlyFrog)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/74 "2005-09-02T13:03:16Z")

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> [@Unregistered Bull](#):
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> I’ve never donated to animal welfare organizations. I have donated to Canadian Red Cross for Tsunami aid. When I get paid, I’m donating to the Red Cross for hurricane relief. If there is a jar at restraunt or a convenience store for someone experiencing a tradgedy, I leave my change in it. I always put pocket change in Salvation Army Kettle during Christmas.
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> I’ve also never kicked a dog for the hell of it. I’ve never starved an animal, withheld water, or shelter. I’ve got my Dad to shoot a dog that was in similar shape as the neglected ones depicted on those Animal Cops shows in order to put it out of its misery because I couldn’t pull trigger (abandoning dogs in the country is a popular no-kill shelter for some folks :mad: ).
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> But I’m just a son of a bitch because I don’t want to waste resources on animals when people are in extreme dire need. And I’m a son of bitch when I point that doing so is fundamentally wrong in a society that respects human beings.

So it is fundamentally a choice issue for you? You are effectively saying that because he is already going to be there, and that because there are likely relatively easy things he could do with the return trip that would help humans, but instead he is bringing back animals, that he is making a choice between which of the two to help?

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/75 "2005-09-02T13:08:37Z")

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Why do you care? Really, why do you care about his opinion? He’s not going to change it, no matter what you do - he sticks to his guns. I want to start a campaign where we all completely ignore **UB** …he causes a great deal of trouble on this board, and it will only be derailed if we let it.

Ignore him.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/76 "2005-09-02T13:12:22Z")

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amen to that. Pearls before swine.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/77 "2005-09-02T13:18:51Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> The funny thing is that the only people this zero-sum logic could possibly apply to are people who are giving 100% of their time and money to helping people and/or animals.

> [@XWalrus2](#):
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> Unregistered Bull, I would gladly save an animal over your sorry ass any day.

> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Well, with people like you, I can see WHY they’d care more about animals.

> [@Contrapunctal](#):
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> I would much rather rescue a boatload of pets before I would waste a second of my time on these murderous, raping, thieving motherfuckers.

> [@Musicat](#):
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> But in your case, I’ll make an exception.
> 
> Some humans ARE animals.

**LHoD** has a point, but so does **Unregistered Bull**.

As sometimes happens, people who are brimming over with compassion - for animals - don’t always extend that compassion to people they dislike. And those folks are **not** spending 100% of their time working on disaster relief.

If **pinkfreud** ’s husband is using his van to benefit animals, and that use would otherwise be wasted, he is doing a kindness. If there is some reasonable way he could make the same use benefit humans, then he is wrong, to that extent. I’m willing to give Mr. **pinkfreud** the benefit of the doubt, which may be where I differ from **UB**. And animal welfare is not particularly one of my hot buttons, so that may be where I differ from most other Dopers, at least in this thread.

As in, “You’re going to try to help the people hurt by Katrina? That’s **wonderful**! And you’re going to bring back a load of pets on the way back? Well, I suppose that’s nice too.”

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/78 "2005-09-02T13:21:02Z")

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> [@honeydewgrrl](#):
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> Like I said in my response, UB is a fucking ass, and yes, he is CHILDISH. I “got” (and agree with) the underlying motive of your statement. But it is a motive that can be reached without being sexist.

[It took me a minute, too](http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/bobby_vee/come_back_when_you_grow_up.html) 🙂

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/79 "2005-09-02T13:27:11Z")

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> [@Missy2U](#):
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> [It took me a minute, too](http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/bobby_vee/come_back_when_you_grow_up.html) 🙂

Thanks.

I suppose everyone needs a good whoosh once in a while. It puts hair on your armpits…

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/80 "2005-09-02T13:30:04Z")

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> [@honeydewgrrl](#):
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> Thanks.
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> I suppose everyone needs a good whoosh once in a while. It puts hair on your armpits…

_off to shave after surreptitious pit-peek_

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