# Unregistered bull, how about defecating here instead? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 2, 2005, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673 "2005-09-02T01:49:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/141 "2005-09-02T23:52:27Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I just thought of something-what about service animals, such as seeing-eye dogs? Would **Unregistered Bull** poo-poo efforts to take care of them? I’m rather surprised that there haven’t been any reports about service animals. Judging from **Bull’s** attitude in various threads though, he probably thinks the use of service animals takes valuable jobs away from people. I wonder if **Bull** is related to the young lady in one of my labs last year who, upon seeing another student with a guide dog in training, remarked “What’s that bitch doing with that dog?” ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/142 "2005-09-03T00:24:07Z")
Normally, I feel that profanity is a crutch for vocabulary-impaired people. In this particular case, I’d like to make an exception and note that **Unregistered Bull** is a flaming asshole. Sure, he’s got a point that people are more important than animals, but **PinkFreud** ’s husband is doing good things and **UB** was rude, obnoxious, mean, and just plain out-of-line in criticizing him for not doing more and for having different priorities than **UB** has. Still reading the thread, **Unregistered Bull**? Congrats! You’ve not only pissed off the tree-huggers, but just about every other compassionate person on the boards. Your logic stinks, your attitude stinks, and you have as much place in polite society as a loud cabbage-roll fart. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/143 "2005-09-03T00:33:15Z")
> [@davenportavenger](#): > > This situation might not be, though. **pinkfreud** , is there any reason (legal or logistics-wise) why your husband can’t bring back humans? Is there any reason why YOU can’t get in YOUR car RIGHT NOW, drive to New Orleans, pick up a few humans, and bring them back? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/144 "2005-09-03T00:48:40Z")
> [@rayh](#): > > Bryan, you should post in [this thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=332687) Thanks, looks like fun. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/145 "2005-09-03T01:06:14Z")
> [@Xploder](#): > > Well, I ain’t got no dog [heh] in this fight but did you also make a donation to maybe help out the PEOPLE that are there? You know, the humans that have reasoning intellects and are SUFFERING? > > Just wanted to know. Though I’m not the person to whom you directed that question, I’ll answer it anyway. Personally I’m on a fixed income, but I gave all I could – $100 – distributed thusly: $25 to American Red Cross $25 to United Jewish Communities $20 to United Methodist Committee on Relief $10 to the Humane Society of the US $10 to Noah’s Wish $10 to Alley Cat Allies - in memory of my sister’s wonderful cat Tessie, who died this week. But you know what? None of us owes anyone an explanation of what we do with our money or efforts. IMHO anyone who asks such a question, or who complains incessantly the way **Unmitigated Gall** did, had damn well better supply their _own_ charitable credentials. (Indeed, ain’t it amusing how throughout all this, the jackass at the center of this controversy never _did_ share his own invaluable contributions to the relief effort? Too modest, I’m sure.) ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/146 "2005-09-03T01:16:01Z")
> [@Xploder](#): > > Well, I ain’t got no dog [heh] in this fight but did you also make a donation to maybe help out the PEOPLE that are there? You know, the humans that have reasoning intellects and are SUFFERING? > > Just wanted to know. Yep. Two days ago. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/147 "2005-09-03T01:51:29Z")
> [@elmwood](#): > > IMHO, part of our duty as a sentient species at the top of the food chain is stewardship for the planet and the creatures that live on it. The domesticated animals in New Orleans are there because of the actions of us humans. Irrational as it may seem, there has been a symbiotic relationship between humans and certain animal species for at least 10,000 years. It’s out responsibility to help out animals as well as humans; not just for the sake of those animals, but for the peace of mind of the humans that, in many ways, depend on them. It’s NOT a zero sum game. Thank you elmwood, very well said. Caring for those that we have made dependent on us is one of the things that makes us human. > [@PinkFreud](#): > > My husband is making plans to drive to Louisiana with several members of an animal rescue organization to which we belong. > [@PinkFreud](#): > > He’ll be driving this bus filled with food, water, clothing, and first aid supplies. > [@PinkFreud](#): > > and will return with a load of homeless pets in need of adoption. PF’s husband is doing what he can help. In the best way he can. PF is sick, she can’t go. Her husband is volunteering to go off into this void. Unregistered Bull. You shit all over the original thread. UB, you’re so low that if you sat on the edge of a piece of toilet paper, your feet would not reach the ground. ---
**Author:** ![davenportavenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@davenportavenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davenportavenger)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/148 "2005-09-03T02:03:03Z")
> [@Pochacco](#): > > Is there any reason why YOU can’t get in YOUR car RIGHT NOW, drive to New Orleans, pick up a few humans, and bring them back? Can’t drive. Wouldn’t have a car to do it in if I could. And PA is a whole lot further away from the disaster zone than OK if you haven’t seen a map lately. But I am going through my clothes and picking out stuff to send down, doing the same with my books (yes, I know books are even less essential than pets but my writing group is organizing it and I have books to spare), and plan to make a blood donation on Sunday. And for all the people saying UB is an asshole, let’s compare these two quotes: > [@Unregistered Bull](#): > > I’d save Lefthand over an animal. I’d even save you. > [@Little Bird](#): > > If I had a choice to help you or to help a couple animals, guess what? I’d help the animals. Because they are helpless, frightened, innocent little creatures who can not possibly understand what is going on. You, on the other hand, are a human being who can comprehend your surroundings and help yourself out of trouble. Also–you are a complete asshole with no regard for life other than that which you can understand on your own level and I’d rather spend a few moments helping an animal than be forced into contact with your miserable ass. Like I said, I’m willing to give **pinkfreud** ’s husband the benefit of the doubt because it seems like he’s doing the dropoff/pickup in an area that isn’t much affected (meaning the humans that are there are not in danger and/or can be picked up easily), but the vitriol of some of the animal lovers on this thread is astounding. And I LIKE animals. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/149 "2005-09-03T02:24:57Z")
> [@davenportavenger](#): > > And for all the people saying UB is an asshole, let’s compare these two quotes: _Nice_ selective comparison. I mean, **Unregistered Bull** certainly wouldn’t say such things as: > [@](#): > > Defecation is what you and your ilke do the human race when you waste precious resources on animals when human beings are in extreme dire need of those resources. Or: > [@](#): > > Anyone that would rather someone rescue their pet instead of a fellow human being, even a stranger (even a stranger of a different race) is very vile person. Yeah, he’s just been a paragon of civility compared to those crazies. :rolleyes: I haven’t read the thread in question, but this is an all-too-common scenario on this board: A poster with a strong opinion takes a dump in a thread not really meant for debate but support for people of a differing viewpoint. It’s not necessarily against the rules, though I have seen mods slap people for it, but it’s uncouth, rude, and unwanted, no matter what opinion it is the thread-shitter might hold. _That’s_ the real issue, not necessarily that **Unregistered Bull** has very sharply defined priorities. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Purl_McKnittington)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/150 "2005-09-03T02:31:33Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > I’m not at all surprised at **Bull’s** cowardice and hypocrisy in this thread. My main encounter with him before was his telling stupid lies about me, and then, when confronted with his lies, refusing either to back up what he said or back out of what he said: instead, he resorted to something about two levels down from “neener neener!” in an attempt to disguise his dishonesty. > > He’s got no honor, and he’s got no integrity; why should he have any reason? > Daniel Whenever I see **Bully Boy** start ripping on you, I think, “How can you hate **LHoD**? Isn’t that like kicking puppies?” And then it all becomes clear. As for you, **Bully Boy** , you silly little bundle of mucus and methane, I find it quite amusing that you’ve decided to identify yourself with a bull, a creature notorious for thinking with its dick, when it thinks at all. You’re exactly like a young bull, just discovering heifers for the first time. You snort, your nostrils quiver, spittle flies from your lips as you bellow at the sky and finally bolt towards your single desire, only to discover you have no idea what the fuck you’re doing. Your beady little eyes bulge in frustration and you resort to charging and bellering incoherently; perhaps if you shout hard enough, she’ll do the work for you. As **Snakescatlady** said, they don’t register the scrubs because they aren’t worth shit. Sweetie, honey britches, dumpling-head, sugar teats, you really should have thought harder before naming yourself if you thought you were being a maverick. Instead, you just look ignorant and like a shitty lover. Eager, no doubt, but your passion is sadly misguided to an issue that does not exist. Honey, you’re fucking air. Even so, I’d save your sorry ass, but I’d make you carry the puppy. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/151 "2005-09-03T02:36:19Z")
> [@davenportavenger](#): > > Like I said, I’m willing to give pinkfreud’s husband the benefit of the doubt because it seems like he’s doing the dropoff/pickup in an area that isn’t much affected (meaning the humans that are there are not in danger and/or can be picked up easily), but the vitriol of some of the animal lovers on this thread is astounding. And I LIKE animals. PF’s husband is doing something that he can do. He is a volunteer at an animal shelter, not a people shelter. IT’S SOMETHING THAT HE CAN DO TO HELP. It all has to be done. You don’t just pick up people in a bus and drop them off in the nearest 7-11. They are in small bus for crying out loud, I’m sure they hope to get the water and supplies as close as they can to relieve human suffering, and then visit local animal shelters and do what they can to help. They can’t just drive into NO and ask if anyone needs a ride. UB shit all over the original thread. He shit on a person trying to help. He diserves all the shit he’s getting in this pitting. That’s where the vitirol is coming from. ---
**Author:** ![davenportavenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@davenportavenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davenportavenger)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/152 "2005-09-03T02:43:11Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > IT’S SOMETHING THAT HE CAN DO TO HELP. And like I said, it seems like it’s all he can do, so it’s good he’s doing anything at all. Better to bring back animals than an empty bus. All I was saying is that if it was POSSIBLE to bring back people and he didn’t, then that would be wrong. But it seems like it isn’t, so yeah, good on him. But why can’t someone drive into NO and pick up people? [Harry Connick Jr](http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/01/katrina.connickjr.ap/index.html?section=cnn_topstories) made it there okay. ---
**Author:** ![Catalyst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@Catalyst](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catalyst)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/153 "2005-09-03T02:49:50Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > Two scenarios for you > > Scenario 1) A man has chosen to go to New Orleans to help distribute water and supplies. On the way back he can choose to a) bring back animals. b) come back in an empty car. > > Given those two options, which is better? And as a preemptive, you do NOT get choice C) bring back a car full of humans. You do NOT get to say “well he should choose to bring back humans instead of animals.” Why do you not get to say that? Because the volunteer has chosen not to. It’s animals or nothing. A or B. Also because… To play devil’s advocate a bit, I don’t think you can just say “you can’t pick C because the volunteer chose not to.” By that reasoning, you can’t choose choice B either, since the volunteer has also chosen not to take that course of action. I took **Bull** ’s comments to mean that rescuing stranded humans rather than stranded pets should be the priority. Frankly, phrased that way, I’d agree; I’d rather see a few more people live through this than a few more pets. People may love their pets, but I imagine a stranded human’s friends and relatives love him or her a whole lot more. Does that mean that I value a human’s life over a pet’s? Yep. Given the choice of saving the inhabitants of a flooding prison or a flooding kennel … well, I’d probably save the pets for irrational reasons, but I’d recognize that saving the human convicts is, to me, the moral course of action. Of course, if a particular volunteer is someone for whom only A and B are possible choices, I’d much rather that they choose option A. I’d certainly wonder _why_ they won’t consider choice C, but I won’t disrespect the fact that they’re still helping by bringing supplies. If I may continue to play devil’s advocate, I would say that retorting with “well, what have _you_ done?” is simply an ad hominem attack and refutes nothing. I don’t run for public office, but that doesn’t make my ideas about how government shold govern invalid. Now that that’s out of the way, **Bull** , you’re a dick. You make a habit of shitting in threads for no apparent reason besides angering others and maybe deflating some good moods. I’d swear I’ve seen your handle hanging over a disproportionate number of priggish posts, but damned if I’m going to sift through your posting history. ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/154 "2005-09-03T02:58:23Z")
> [@Unregistered Bull](#): > > Defecation is what you and your ilke do the human race when you waste precious resources on animals when human beings are in extreme dire need of those resources. Go fuck yourself. ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/155 "2005-09-03T03:11:20Z")
I’d say that **UB** was practicing animal abuse in this very thread, by beating on his dead horse. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/156 "2005-09-03T03:29:01Z")
> [@Miss Purl McKnittington](#): > > Whenever I see **Bully Boy** start ripping on you, I think, “How can you hate **LHoD**? Isn’t that like kicking puppies?” And then it all becomes clear. 😃 You’re a sweetie! I read this thread before bed last night (I just had a really hard time stopping with the rhyming), and I dreamt about my brother and me getting in a really big fight. Hopefully reading this comment right before bed means I’ll have more pleasant dreams. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/157 "2005-09-03T03:42:51Z")
> [@davenportavenger](#): > > But why can’t someone drive into NO and pick up people? Harry Connick Jr made it there okay. Likely because if you aren’t National Guard, Regular Army, Coast Guard, Red Cross, Army Core of Engineers, or some other other agency of FEMA, you are not going to get near the disaster. There is a good reason for this. The first order of rescue personel is to not become a victim. Someone else that needs to be rescued. Harry Connick Jr got in there for the sound bites. The media got him in there. Not a bad thing at all. People need to know. John Q Public can’t get in there because he may very well need to be rescued. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/158 "2005-09-03T03:55:50Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > You don’t just pick up people in a bus and drop them off in the nearest 7-11. Exactly. The reason the animals can be taken away more easily is precisely that they are less valuable. And animals are not given a say in where they end up. ---
**Author:** ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/159 "2005-09-03T04:06:50Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Though I’m not the person to whom you directed that question, I’ll answer it anyway. Personally I’m on a fixed income, but I gave all I could – $100 – distributed thusly: > > $25 to American Red Cross > $25 to United Jewish Communities > $20 to United Methodist Committee on Relief > $10 to the Humane Society of the US > $10 to Noah’s Wish > $10 to Alley Cat Allies - in memory of my sister’s wonderful cat Tessie, who died this week. > > But you know what? None of us owes anyone an explanation of what we do with our money or efforts. IMHO anyone who asks such a question, or who complains incessantly the way **Unmitigated Gall** did, had damn well better supply their _own_ charitable credentials. > > (Indeed, ain’t it amusing how throughout all this, the jackass at the center of this controversy never _did_ share his own invaluable contributions to the relief effort? Too modest, I’m sure.) I think **UB** has a point. You have $100 to give. That’s great. By your count, you give $70 to people and $30 to animals. But wouldn’t it be a better use of limited resources to give all $100 to people? I’m not criticizing you, btw, just trying to understand your position. ---
**Author:** ![Queen\_Bruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Queen\_Bruin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Bruin)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unregistered-bull-how-about-defecating-here-instead/319673/160 "2005-09-03T04:13:56Z")
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