# Unseen TV characters **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 18, 2001, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646 "2001-01-18T05:47:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![frolix8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f04885/32.png) [@frolix8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/frolix8)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/21 "2001-01-18T15:51:43Z")
And of course, Jaunita down at the diner, Barney Fife’s girl (sometimes). ---
**Author:** ![PRNYouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9dc877/32.png) [@PRNYouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PRNYouth)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/22 "2001-01-18T16:03:45Z")
Ugly Naked Guy on “Friends” Joe Mayo on “Seinfeld” (This character was repeatedly mentioned in a variety of contexts. I don’t think he was ever shown, but I’m pretty sure he was named after someone on the crew of the show.) Nanny on “Muppet Babies” 😃 Cheating - I know, since we see her fashionably-striped stockings, just never her face. I know there are more – just can’t think of 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/23 "2001-01-18T16:08:16Z")
How about Serge (?), Edwina’s son from Ab Fab. ---
**Author:** ![kid\_charlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@kid\_charlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kid_charlemagne)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/24 "2001-01-18T16:12:26Z")
Joe Mayo was seen at his apartment warming party, remember he had the same fur coat as David Puddy. Anyway, sticking with Seinfeld. Kramer’s two friends, Bob Sakimano and Lomez were never seen. Actually Lomez was probably in the bar when Kramer was telling his “real Peterman” stories but they never referred to him. ---
**Author:** ![PRNYouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9dc877/32.png) [@PRNYouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PRNYouth)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/25 "2001-01-18T16:33:45Z")
_ **Sakimano!!** _ THAT’S who I was thinking of – thanks for the correction. Joe Mayo was indeed in that episode, and was portrayed by Pat Finn. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/26 "2001-01-18T16:41:05Z")
Starr Jones’s neck. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/27 "2001-01-18T17:08:53Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Arken \* > But there was another character on M_A_S_H you never saw… the guy on the P.A. system who announced incoming wounded. Didn’t the skinny corpsman with the beaky face do the announcements? I always thought that was his voice. ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/28 "2001-01-18T17:13:34Z")
**Mjollnir** > [@](#): > > Star Jones’s neck. Star Jones has a neck? Once we start talking about M_A_S\*H there are many characters we learned a lot about but never saw: Peg & Erin Hunnicutt Honoria Winchester Mrs. Blake Mildred Potter the elder Mr. Pierce Mrs. O’Reilly and, err, her brother (wasn’t Radar’s uncle helping Radar’s widowed mother with the farm?)? And **Arken** , I’m glad you brought up the P.A. announcer…many people mistakenly think that was Radar, but of course, the voice continued even after Radar left the show. ---
**Author:** ![Sigene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/29 "2001-01-18T17:13:34Z")
Any adult on a Peanuts cartoon. ---
**Author:** ![Zappo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b3f665/32.png) [@Zappo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zappo)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/30 "2001-01-18T17:15:00Z")
How about Peg’s mother on “Married with Children?” She was unseen because the role was originally written for Divine, who passed away before (s)he was able to film an appearance on the show. Rather than get another actor the writers decided to leave the role unfilled and referred to her without showing her on camera. Another good one is “Charlie” from “Charlie’s Angels.” While his voice (played by John Forsythe) was depicted as coming out of the phone speaker at the start and end of every episode, he was never seen on the show. And since we’re including BritComs in this thread, how about “Old Mr. Grace” from “Are You Being Served?” He was referred to on several occasions, usually when somebody was introduced to the doddering Young Mr. Grace: Mr. Spooner: “THAT’S Young Mr. Grace?!?” Mrs. Slocombe: “Yes. Old Mr. Grace doesn’t get around very well any more.” Regards, Zappo who spends too damn much time in front of the television ---
**Author:** ![Arken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@Arken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arken)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/31 "2001-01-18T17:47:16Z")
Wasn’t Old Mr. Grace the original Mr. Grace and Young Mr. Grace replaced him later on in the series or am I imagining things? Oh, and with the listing of all of the family on M_A_S\*H you never saw, you can’t forget Klinger’s extended family (including sneaky Uncle Abdul) and his ex-wife. Mildred Potter made an appearance as a regular on the unfortunate After-M_A_S\*H. In a reversal of this sort of thing, the WB network cartoon Freakazoid! actually _DID_ show “faceless” announcer Joe Leahy on several occasions AND called him by name. Oh, and I just thought of one other character… Jim Dial’s wife on Murphy Brown. Wow, I watch way too much TV. ---
**Author:** ![cher3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@cher3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cher3)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/32 "2001-01-18T18:01:47Z")
There was also Columbo’s wife, if you don’t count the “Mrs Columbo” series with Captain what’s-her-name. And I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Arken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@Arken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arken)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/33 "2001-01-18T18:08:56Z")
Just thought of a few more: Ralph and Potzie’s parents on ‘Happy Days’ Antonio’s weird girlfriends (Pencil Patty who lives under the bridge, the big-faced girl, etc.), Lowell’s jock pals and Roy’s drinking buddies on ‘Wings’ Suzanne’s voodoo maid Consuela on ‘Designing Women’ That guy who hosted ‘Remote Control’ on MTV’s mom (she always called him up from the basement at commercial time) Not exactly a character, but… Northern Exposure made frequent references to the town of Sleetmute, especially if something seedy was being discussed (e.g. “If you want a prostitute, you can go to Sleetmute!”) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Steve\_Wright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_Wright)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/34 "2001-01-18T18:18:25Z")
Quite a few British comedies have used this convention. Probably the best known (over here, and in my age group…) would be Captain Mainwaring’s wife Elizabeth in “Dad’s Army”, and Arthur Daley’s wife, “'Er Indoors” in “Minder”. IIRC, in “Are You Being Served?”, Young Mr. Grace was the original proprietor, Old Mr. Grace put in an appearance in later seasons (I think the actor playing Young Mr. Grace either died or retired at some point). Come to think of it, the show included two other invisible characters, Mr Humphries’ mother and (groan) Mrs. Slocombe’s pussy… I _think_. I am _not_ an authority on “Are You Being Served?”, I wish to make that _absolutely_ clear. ---
**Author:** ![lolagranola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ea5d25/32.png) [@lolagranola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lolagranola)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/35 "2001-01-18T18:29:21Z")
> [@](#): > > Suzanne’s voodoo maid Consuela on ‘Designing Women’ I’m sure that she was seen. Anyone else remember her? ---
**Author:** ![urlnotfound](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e5b9ba/32.png) [@urlnotfound](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urlnotfound)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/36 "2001-01-18T18:39:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Balance \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > _Originally posted by Arken \* > > But there was another character on M_A_S_H you never saw… the guy on the P.A. system who announced incoming wounded. > > Didn’t the skinny corpsman with the beaky face do the announcements? I always thought that was his voice. \*\* I read somewhere that the voice for the P.A. system wasn’t a single person at all. It was whoever was around to do it at the time. Bad TV time. How about “Voice” on Cleopatara 2525? ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/37 "2001-01-18T18:46:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Arken \* > \*\*Oh, and I just thought of one other character… Jim Dial’s wife on Murphy Brown. > > Wow, I watch way too much TV. \*\* No, I know for sure we saw Jim’s wife. (drawing a blank on her name…Doris?) The reruns of “MB” are on Lifetime and I just saw one with her…she wanted to go out and get a job after years of being a housewife. I’m pretty sure she was in at least a couple of episodes. > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Arken_ > \*\*Just thought of a few more: > > Ralph and Potzie’s parents on ‘Happy Days’ > > Antonio’s weird girlfriends (Pencil Patty who lives under the bridge, the big-faced girl, etc.), Lowell’s jock pals and Roy’s drinking buddies on ‘Wings’ > > Suzanne’s voodoo maid Consuela on ‘Designing Women’ > \*\* I’m quite sure we saw Ralph’s father…he was an eye doctor, (right?) and Fonzie went to see him once. Didn’t he and Ralph go to an opthamologist’s convention once? He was a big practical joker? Wanted Ralph to be an eye doc, too? Lowell’s friends…I know we saw a couple of them once…he and Antonio went rat-shooting at the dump and we saw two of them…they liked Antonio better than Lowell because he shot better, so Antonio shot poorly the next time. Suzanne’s maid Consuela…I **think** we did see her at least once, but I’m not positive. I watch way too much TV, too. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/38 "2001-01-18T18:51:51Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Arken \* > \*\*But there was another character on M_A_S_H you never saw… the guy on the P.A. system who announced incoming wounded. \*\* If we include recurring announcers, and going _way_ back, there was the train announcer on the _Jack Benny Show_, voiced by Mel Blanc: Train Announcer: _Anaheim, Azusa, and **Cuc** -a-monga_ …(Pause Between Cuc and A-monga) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/39 "2001-01-18T19:03:24Z")
Y’know, this is fun and all, but it’s really better suited for IMHO. Catch, Veb! Oh, and by the way, Dr. Claw from _Inspector Gadget_ (the animated show, not the live-action movie), and, of course, Cecil Adams, from the short-lived _Straight Dope_ TV show. ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2001, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646/40 "2001-01-18T19:04:45Z")
**Arken** : > [@](#): > > Oh, and I just thought of one other character… Jim Dial’s wife on Murphy Brown. > > Wow, I watch way too much TV. Not quite enough, apparently. Jim Dial’s wife Doris appeared in many episodes from 1989-92. There was even an episode that focused on the two of them (she was leaving Jim because she felt unfulfilled, in a storyline perhaps deliberately derivative of the episode of Mary Tyler Moore where Lou Grant’s wife left him for similar reasons). **urlnotfound** : Pretty sure you’re mainly mistaken re: the PA announcer; the voice was very distinctive, and IMDB only credits two voice actors (who were both uncredited in the show itself): Todd Susman and Sal Viscuso. Todd Susman was the voice we all think of; he’s the guy who sounded a little like Radar. He’s not just a voice actor, either. He’s one of those character actors who turns up in movies and guest roles on TV shows. His best known (to me) recent work was on _Angel_, as the wealthy father of a young woman who hired Angel to protect the daughter (but got Wesley instead). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unseen-tv-characters/50646.md?page=3)