# Unsequelable movies **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 24, 2004, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895 "2004-09-24T16:57:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2004, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/81 "2004-09-25T20:58:18Z")
> [@dwc1970](#): > > Also, I think we can all agree that _Titanic_ would not be served well to have a sequel. > > Any others? I heard they were going to make a prequel to Titanic, about it’s construction. It would have been rivetting. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2004, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/82 "2004-09-25T22:18:25Z")
> [@Cicero](#): > > I heard they were going to make a prequel to Titanic, about it’s construction. It would have been rivetting. People would have started slagging it before it came out, complaining about the skeleton of a plot. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2004, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/83 "2004-09-25T23:40:30Z")
> [@](#): > > Sorry. That was a bit rude. I suppose any movie can have a sequel if continuity is not an issue. My memory of the various Ape sequels is that they simply used the idea of a planet ruled by apes and went from there. Your memory serves you ill, young Skywalker. **Escape from the Planet of the Apes** was – God help us – consistent with the first two in following on from them and using two of the same characters, and the same actors (Roddy McDowell and Kim Hunter, although McDowell didn’t play Cornelius in the second film. I have to mention that or the nitpickers’ nitpickers will be all over me). Of course, they had to give the apes interplanetary rockets that they didn’t have in the first two films, but, hey, so what. The remaining films followed on, consistently, from there. There have been cases where the nominal “sequels” really didn’t have anything to do with the original – look at **The Howling** sequels after #2. Or **Halloween III: The Season of the Witch** ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2004, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/84 "2004-09-26T00:07:56Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Of course, they had to give the apes interplanetary rockets that they didn’t have in the first two films, but, hey, so what. The remaining films followed on, consistently, from there. Well, techically, the used Taylors Capsule to escape. I have no idea how, considering it was flooded, sunken and had no way of getting off the planet. And they never explain the backwards time travel thing. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2004, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/85 "2004-09-26T00:23:08Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > Are you kididng? David Cronenberg movies tend to have this bizarre “I’ve just dropped a tab of acid” atmophere/plot anyway, so why not? > > Sure a sequel wouldn’t make any sense, but niether did Videodrome after the first hour. I agree; the whole movie was all just ‘have I woken up or am I just dreaming that I woke up?’, ending with the characters actually waking up; all the sequel would have to do was show that they _didn’t_ actually wake up, then continue with the nested nightmares for another hour or two. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2004, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/86 "2004-09-26T00:35:19Z")
> [@Fiver](#): > > I don’t get it. “Kill Chuck?” Why is that funny? > [@Larry Mudd](#): > > One assumes a convention of two-syllable rhyming titles has been established. [It’s been done.](http://worldfilm.about.com/library/00nowplaying/blchuckandbuck.htm) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2004, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/87 "2004-09-26T04:55:06Z")
> [@detop](#): > > Actually, that idea is not so far-fetched. I remember reading about a reporter (I don’t remember his name, unfortunately) who survived the Titanic sinking and being on board (and surviving) the Lusitania sinking. He died by drowning while crossing a stream in the late 50s IIRC. Sorry, I think that is an urban myth. I checked any number of sites regarding the two- the closest I came to such a reference is this: In regard to Lusitania’s myths, there’s the story about Frank Tower, a stoker who purportedly survived the Titanic, Empress of Ireland, and Lusitania disasters. Dr. Ballard says in his book: “In the end the tale seems to be an urban folk myth, arising, perhaps, out of our desire to see people triumph in the face of terrible tragedies.” ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2004, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/88 "2004-09-26T09:24:54Z")
> [@Cicero](#): > > Sorry, I think that is an urban myth. I checked any number of sites regarding the two- the closest I came to such a reference is this: [I don’t recall this being debunked.](http://www.sheridanhouse.com/catalog/disasteratsea/titanicsurvpb.html) ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2004, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/89 "2004-09-26T09:55:50Z")
I can’t really see how that has relevance to the Lusitania and the Titanic. I never suggested there was no evidence of people being shipwrecked more than once. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2004, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/90 "2004-09-26T10:08:48Z")
> [@Cicero](#): > > I can’t really see how that has relevance to the Lusitania and the Titanic. I never suggested there was no evidence of people being shipwrecked more than once. No, but we are talking about coincidental shipwrecks here. The Lusitania is more famous, but the Britannic was also owned by the White Star line - and Violet Jessop was also aboard the Olympic during one of its many crashes, apparently, meaning she survived shipwrecks of all three White Star liners. ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2004, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/91 "2004-09-26T10:25:49Z")
> [@Evil Death](#): > > No, but we are talking about coincidental shipwrecks here. The Lusitania is more famous, but the Britannic was also owned by the White Star line - and Violet Jessop was also aboard the Olympic during one of its many crashes, apparently, meaning she survived shipwrecks of all three White Star liners. But, but… The Titanic was White Star Line. Lusitania was Cunard Brittanic was Cunard before the merger with White Star. I am , again, confused. ---
**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2004, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/92 "2004-09-26T10:26:43Z")
How about a Hitchcock sequel called _The Man Who Knew Way Too Much_? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2004, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/93 "2004-09-26T17:09:11Z")
_Casino Royale_ _Ghost_ _On The Beach_ ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2004, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/94 "2004-09-27T18:40:01Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Your memory serves you ill, young Skywalker. **Escape from the Planet of the Apes** was – God help us – consistent with the first two in following on from them and using two of the same characters, and the same actors (Roddy McDowell and Kim Hunter, although McDowell didn’t play Cornelius in the second film. I have to mention that or the nitpickers’ nitpickers will be all over me). Of course, they had to give the apes interplanetary rockets that they didn’t have in the first two films, but, hey, so what. The remaining films followed on, consistently, from there. > There have been cases where the nominal “sequels” really didn’t have anything to do with the original – look at **The Howling** sequels after #2. Or **Halloween III: The Season of the Witch** Did any of those sequels occur after the world was destroyed? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2004, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/95 "2004-09-27T19:38:53Z")
> [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by CalMeacham > Your memory serves you ill, young Skywalker. Escape from the Planet of the Apes was – God help us – consistent with the first two in following on from them and using two of the same characters, and the same actors (Roddy McDowell and Kim Hunter, although McDowell didn’t play Cornelius in the second film. I have to mention that or the nitpickers’ nitpickers will be all over me). Of course, they had to give the apes interplanetary rockets that they didn’t have in the first two films, but, hey, so what. The remaining films followed on, consistently, from there. > There have been cases where the nominal “sequels” really didn’t have anything to do with the original – look at The Howling sequels after #2. Or Halloween III: The Season of the Witch > > Did any of those sequels occur after the world was destroyed? Of course – all of them except for the first two Planwet of the Apes films. Of course, they went back in time to _before_ the Earth was destroyed, but that’s why I say that you can _always_ do sequels, even with the main character dead or the world destroyed. Heck, they did Pibk Panther sequels after Peter sellers died. They did one without his _before_ he died. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2004, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/96 "2004-09-27T20:00:52Z")
Surprise ending movies: The Sixth Sense Unbreakable The Crying Game ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2004, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/97 "2004-09-27T21:04:38Z")
> [@Art Vandelay](#): > > It’d be pretty hard to do a sequel to “Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid” or “Easy Rider”. Well, not for lack of trying: _Mrs Sundance_ [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071868/](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071868/) And Michael O’Donohue had _Biker Heaven_ ready for filming since about 1980. ---
**Author:** ![Moonchild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Moonchild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonchild)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2004, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/98 "2004-09-27T22:00:40Z")
Depending on how you define a sequel, another **Wizard of Oz** sequel is in the works and has a pretty strong likelihood of getting made. It’s called “Surrender, Dorothy!” and the setup is that the grand daughter of the Wicked Witch discovers that the ruby slippers are owned by Dorothy’s grand daughter (to be played by Drew Barrymore) who lives in NYC. And so the Wicked Witch’s grand daughter goes to the Big Apple to track them down (“We’re not in Oz anymore…”). On the sequel note, Warner Brothers had a script in development that was the sequel to **“The Fugitive.”** When Dr. Kimball (Harrison Ford) is in the car being uncuffed by Big Dog (Tommy Lee Jones), his boss tells him to put the cuffs back on because he hasn’t been absolved of anything yet. So, Kimball escapes again and somehow ends up on this yacht where he meets a woman who becomes his romantic interest. (Thankfully, that one never got made.) More hijacking: I was once bartending a Hollywood party and was in the mood to start chatting up Ving Rhames and asked him what the deal was with his bandaid in **“Pulp Fiction”** and he told me it would be revealed in “Pulp Fiction II.” And he was serious. But he said it was a matter of money as to whether it would get made (nobody was going to work for scale this time around). ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2004, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/99 "2004-09-27T22:43:11Z")
_Plan Nine From Outer Space_ “God help us in the future…” ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895/100 "2004-09-28T00:26:45Z")
> [@Moonchild](#): > > More hijacking: I was once bartending a Hollywood party and was in the mood to start chatting up Ving Rhames and asked him what the deal was with his bandaid in **“Pulp Fiction”** and he told me it would be revealed in “Pulp Fiction II.” And he was serious. But he said it was a matter of money as to whether it would get made (nobody was going to work for scale this time around). That would be interesting, considering I’ve always heard that the offical answer was that Ving Rhames had a scar on the back of his neck and Tarentino didn’t want it to distract the audience. Then again, he might have just wanted to screw with out minds and make us question why. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unsequelable-movies/265895.md?page=4)