# Unspoiled Colorless Mafia Discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 4, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925 "2009-12-04T00:32:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925/41 "2010-01-11T13:10:52Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Is there a better site for beginners?

Not really. All the mafia sites (including MafiaScum and other non-Dope affiliated boards) are pretty much newbie friendly. Although, since MafiaScum is one of the largest, they might have more newbie oriented games.

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> Does it annoy regulars when beginners try to play?

Not at all. My first game was probably the most complex game the Dope affiliates ran up to that point. (Arkham Asylum run by the aforementioned Roosh along with Diomedes/Boozahol Squid.) Everyone’s got to start somewhere and the veterans on the whole are a friendly and helpful lot. Granted, there are occasionally much more simple and more newbie friendly games run, but really unless you’re easily intimidated, even a complex game won’t be too bad. (Besides, what’s better than a trial by fire to truly hone your mafia skills.)

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> Would it be possible to insist I not be assigned a special role for my first game or two?

Usually it’s better not to have this, since role assignments are meant to be random, but it would depend on who the person running the game is. Frequently a better choice is to just ask the mod for strategies on how to run a role. They should be able to give you some ideas without giving you any spoilers.

Another good way to learn strategies is to watch games spoiled. It gives you insight into motivations of various players, and you can read the critiques that your fellow spoiled give on current strategies various players are using. You’ll get some of that in unspoiled discussion threads like this one, but the discussions here are conducted by people who don’t know the truth of what’s going on, or might know the truth if they’re spoiled, but naturally have to hedge their comments so as not to inadvertently reveal that they have perfect information.

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925/42 "2010-01-11T13:12:34Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Well, we do have games for beginners and I don’t really think experience adds as much as you might think. However, asking for non-special roles isn’t possible, as it would indicate to some degree what your role is(vanilla town or scum).

Not if you ask privately to the person(s) moderating. But as I mentioned above, it’s not advisable regardless.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925/43 "2010-01-11T17:27:28Z")

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I’ve found it pretty user friendly for newbs. And “Don’t lynch me, I’m just a newb, it’s my first day” can sometimes work to your advantage like when you get put in the role of necromancer on your first go out. ::evil laughter::

When’s Night ending?

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925/44 "2010-01-11T17:43:32Z")

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I do think this board is probably the most user friendly. There’s also another board, but SDMB frowns on posting links.

Night ends in about 9 hours and 15 minutes

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925/45 "2010-01-11T18:08:38Z")

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Thanks, **special ed**. I wonder if **peeker** is literally going to go insane by the end of the game…he seems near the end of his rope. Or is this how he always plays?

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925/46 "2010-01-11T18:46:25Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> I do think this board is probably the most user friendly. There’s also another board, but SDMB frowns on posting links.

But due to the fact that Idle’s board was formed purely for the ability to run Mafia games slightly different from the way they are run here, and to provide more opportunities for people to run them, Idle’s board has pretty much been given a pass in practice of the law, if not exactly the letter. Idlemafia games get advertised here, and SD games get advertised over there.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925/47 "2010-01-11T19:01:44Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> I do think this board is probably the most user friendly.

Maybe I’ll try to get in the next game here. I’ve a learning curve problem at any new forum; or rather need to post a while so other forum members learn I’m not really obnoxious: just quirky with poor social skills. ☹ :smack:

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925/48 "2010-01-11T20:40:19Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Maybe I’ll try to get in the next game here. I’ve a learning curve problem at any new forum; or rather need to post a while so other forum members learn I’m not really obnoxious: just quirky with poor social skills. ☹ :smack:

you’ll fit right in then 🙂

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925/49 "2010-01-11T20:46:51Z")

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:nod:

Before I started playing mafia, I read over a few of the old mafia Dope games first, and then I started to play- and I was still a bit intimidated, but you really don’t have to worry too much if you can understand how to play logically and not go all crazy. So just wait for a game to open up, and make sure it’s nothing too crazy or wild, and go for it!

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925/50 "2010-01-16T22:25:56Z")

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This one’s really engrossing.

Is day ending at 8 or 9?

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925/51 "2010-01-16T22:27:59Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> This one’s really engrossing.
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> Is day ending at 8 or 9?

at 8 my time, about 3.5 hours

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925/52 "2010-01-17T09:15:07Z")

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Most likely going into lylo tomorrow, unless Alka can pull some magic out of his hat. This game is looking very interesting, even from the peanut gallery.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925/53 "2010-01-17T21:24:49Z")

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So, before I even make any attempt at catching up on the game thread, can anyone give me a quick run-down of the status? Like, what Day is it, who’s dead, etc.?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925/54 "2010-01-17T21:29:18Z")

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Sure. It’s Night 6 and here is who died when and who they were, as revealed in-game.

pedescribe, Serial Killer (Lynched Day 1)  
amrussel, Vanilla Town (Killed Night 1)  
DiggitCamara, Vanilla Town (Lynched Day 2)  
Zeriel, Vanilla Town (Killed Night 3)  
Mahaloth, Vanilla Town (Lynched Day 3)  
Freudian Slit, Scum Goon, (Lynched Day 4)  
USCDiver, Town Doc (Killed Night 4)  
ToeJam, Vanilla Town (Killed Night 4)  
Nanook of the North Shore, Vanilla Town (Lynched Day 5)  
MHaye, Vanilla Town (Killed Night 5)  
GuiriEnEspaña, Town Cop (Killed Night 5)  
Red Skeezix, Vanilla Town (Lynched Day 6)

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925/55 "2010-01-17T23:01:37Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Sure. It’s Night 6 and here is who died when and who they were, as revealed in-game.
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> pedescribe, Serial Killer (Lynched Day 1)  
> amrussel, Vanilla Town (Killed Night 1)  
> DiggitCamara, Vanilla Town (Lynched Day 2)  
> Zeriel, Vanilla Town (Killed Night 3)  
> Mahaloth, Vanilla Town (Lynched Day 3)  
> Freudian Slit, Scum Goon, (Lynched Day 4)  
> USCDiver, Town Doc (Killed Night 4)  
> ToeJam, Vanilla Town (Killed Night 4)  
> Nanook of the North Shore, Vanilla Town (Lynched Day 5)  
> MHaye, Vanilla Town (Killed Night 5)  
> GuiriEnEspaña, Town Cop (Killed Night 5)  
> Red Skeezix, Vanilla Town (Lynched Day 6)

Obviously, I made a mistake, Zeriel was killed on Night 2, not Night 3

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925/56 "2010-01-18T17:40:56Z")

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Scum’s got this in the Bag…

Now then, do we even get an extra day or does \*\*Peeks \*\*end the game here and now during the night? I’m curious to see.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unspoiled-colorless-mafia-discussion/519925/57 "2010-01-18T18:30:24Z")

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> [@ToeJam](#):
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> Scum’s got this in the Bag…
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> Now then, do we even get an extra day or does \*\*Peeks \*\*end the game here and now during the night? I’m curious to see.

peeks ended it.

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