# Unstoppable Revenge Films

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 9, 2011, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944 "2011-01-09T02:32:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/21 "2011-01-09T05:49:19Z")

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> [@pravnik](#):
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> The Crow.
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> Hang Em High.

How man, how could I have forgotten those. The first is linked to my first boy crush, the second is one of my favorite western. Guess was thinking of pure breed revenge movies, not movies from another genre that were revenge movies too.

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/22 "2011-01-09T06:01:56Z")

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> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#):
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> How man, how could I have forgotten those. The first is linked to my first boy crush, the second is one of my favorite western. Guess was thinking of pure breed revenge movies, not movies from another genre that were revenge movies too.

I know the feeling. There are a couple on the tip of my tongue I can’t quite name.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/23 "2011-01-09T06:02:10Z")

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Rocky IV

Braveheart

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/24 "2011-01-09T06:08:11Z")

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_Death Wish_  
_High Plains Drifter_  
_Hit Man_, the blaxploitation remake of _Get Carter_ with Bernie Casey.  
_I Spit on Your Grave_ (aka _Day of the Woman_)  
_Ms. 45_

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**Author:** ![Jaledin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Jaledin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaledin)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/25 "2011-01-09T06:10:41Z")

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“Coffy” starring Pam Grier – a tough woman takes revenge on a sadistic prison guard. Also, toss in “Jackie Brown” – it ends in the ultimate take-down ever commmitted to celluloid aside from “White Lightning” or “Death Proof.”

Is the OP actually going to watch all these movies? That’s like a year of straight movie-watching for a normal person, I’d expect!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/26 "2011-01-09T06:15:31Z")

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Speaking of remakes, I’ve seen the trailer for Dwayne Johnson’s new movie _Faster_. Judging from the trailer, it might be another _Get Carter_ remake.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/27 "2011-01-09T06:17:37Z")

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> [@Jaledin](#):
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> Is the OP actually going to watch all these movies? That’s like a year of straight movie-watching for a normal person, I’d expect!

I only count thirty-five movies. That’s just a busy week.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/28 "2011-01-09T06:25:13Z")

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“Hello. My name is…”

While it isn’t the central plot of the movie, \*the Princess Bride \*features the best unstoppable revenge ever put to screen.

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**Author:** ![Jaledin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Jaledin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaledin)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/29 "2011-01-09T06:33:13Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I only count thirty-five movies. That’s just a busy week.

Or a busy few days! I’ve only seen six or seven movies in a row, and I’m not a professional, just someone who likes movies.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/30 "2011-01-09T08:09:25Z")

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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> Rocky IV
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> Braveheart

Neither of those is really **about** vengeance. Rocky wants to get back for Apollo Creed, but it’s made clear national pride is his main motive. And William Wallace is after independence for Scotland, any vengeance he takes along the way is secondary to that goal.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/31 "2011-01-09T08:11:21Z")

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[_Pumpkinhead._](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumpkinhead_%28film%29) That’s **about** vengeance. And features an unstoppable force.

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**Author:** ![MostlyClueless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@MostlyClueless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyClueless)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/32 "2011-01-09T09:28:57Z")

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Oldboy _is_ about unstoppable revenge.

For the _other_ guy.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/33 "2011-01-09T10:48:42Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Frank Castle would never sacrifice someone (other than himself) to get revenge.

Really? This is kind of a change from the comics, then.

Sure, he won’t kill innocents - but he gets to decide who’s ‘innocent’…and seems to have decided that means not killing kids, and that’s about it.

Non-movie-related Punisher jackholery under cut: [spoiler]There was a scene in the Anti-Venom series, where Frank and Eddie were both going after the same bad guy, so they decided to team up.

The alliance ended when the bad guy took a hostage - a woman known to both of them, who was an addict.

Eddie’s reaction: ‘Oops, better regroup!’  
Frank’s reaction: ‘Screw her, justice don’t stop for addicts.’  
Eddie’s reaction to Frank’s reaction: ‘I’m gonna eat your brains!’

I may be paraphrasing a touch. But, Frank did make it clear that not only would he not shed a tear if the bad guy cacked her, he’d shoot through her if it came to that.[/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/34 "2011-01-09T13:23:01Z")

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Ocean’s Eleven is a great revenge film.

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**Author:** ![Fatwater\_Fewl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4491bb/32.png) [@Fatwater\_Fewl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fatwater_Fewl)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/35 "2011-01-09T15:10:15Z")

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High Plains Drifter.

> [@runner pat](#):
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> [Payback.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120784/)

> [@Jaledin](#):
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> “Point Blank” (1967) with Lee Marvin. Classic. It rules.

Point Blank is the better movie – both are based on the first Parker novel, The Hunter, by Richard Stark (a Donald E. Westlake pseudonym).

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**Author:** ![Labdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Labdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labdad)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/36 "2011-01-09T16:07:01Z")

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“Nevada Smith:” Steve McQueen seeks revenge against a trio of low-lifes (Karl Malden, Martin Landeau, and (I think) Arthur Kennedy) who murdered his parents just for shits and giggles. Great three-part revenge story!

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/37 "2011-01-09T16:15:57Z")

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**The Last of the Mohicans**

“When the Grey Hair is dead, Magua will eat his heart. Before he dies, Magua will put his children under the knife, so the Grey Hair will know his seed is wiped out forever”

**Ran** The whole disaster was put in motion by Lady Sué to avenge the destruction of her family’s castle.

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/38 "2011-01-09T16:53:26Z")

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> [@Labdad](#):
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> “Nevada Smith:” Steve McQueen seeks revenge against a trio of low-lifes (Karl Malden, Martin Landeau, and (I think) Arthur Kennedy) who murdered his parents just for shits and giggles. Great three-part revenge story!

Isnt it George Kennedy?

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**Author:** ![bramma23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@bramma23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bramma23)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/39 "2011-01-09T18:28:32Z")

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Every actor even considered a marginal action star has one of these.

Vin Diesel has A Man Apart  
The Rock has Fast and The Rundown to an extent  
Swayze has Road House which winds up being about revenge.  
Damon has the Bourne sequels which are also at least partially about revenge.  
Statham has at least a couple but Death Race and Crank come to mind.  
JCVD has Double Impact, Death Warrant, and others.  
Almost every story in Sin City is about revenge but especially Marv’s.  
Stallone has a few that could loosely fit this label, films that don’t stand out about revenge but end up that way like Rocky III, Rocky IV, Rocky V, Tango and Cash, etc.  
Arnold has Commando, Total Recall, Eraser, The 6th Day, Collateral Damage, and probably others.  
And Charles Bronson and Lee Marvin made enough of these movies to keep John Cena working in crappy action moves forever.  
Even if they aren’t noteworthy there are tons of direct-to-DVD sequels and "original"s.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unstoppable-revenge-films/566944/40 "2011-01-09T19:10:05Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Neither of those is really **about** vengeance. Rocky wants to get back for Apollo Creed, but it’s made clear national pride is his main motive. And William Wallace is after independence for Scotland, any vengeance he takes along the way is secondary to that goal.

Pickers of nits. The goals of both protagonists morph over the course of each film. So what? Or we can be immovable purists; that’s fun.

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