# UnuMondo, kindly go to hell and stay there.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unumondo-kindly-go-to-hell-and-stay-there/160153>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 9, 2003, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unumondo-kindly-go-to-hell-and-stay-there/160153 "2003-03-09T21:51:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unumondo-kindly-go-to-hell-and-stay-there/160153/21 "2003-03-11T20:56:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by UnuMondo \*  
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> Wrong. I did not say nerds _deserve_ being picked on

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Liar.

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> most nerds understand that the popular kids were right to pick on them

The morbidly curious may read more of **UnoMondo** ’s defense of bullying and his condemnation of innocent victimized children in[this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=162388&pagenumber=4).

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> I was a nerd in high school, but then I grew up and realised a) getting picked on isn’t so bad when you put it in perspective, and b) high school is no place to be different, and c) I don’t think it’s right to make people accept a certain social group and thus believe it would be wrong to limit non-physical bullying.\*\*

What you realized was that being a bully seemed like fun, so you decided to become one. That much is apparent from your behavior on this board.

I look forward to your eventual banning.

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**Author:** ![Dreaming\_of\_Maria\_Callas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@Dreaming\_of\_Maria\_Callas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dreaming_of_Maria_Callas)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unumondo-kindly-go-to-hell-and-stay-there/160153/22 "2003-03-12T16:49:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lamia \*  
> \*\*\*\*I look forward to your eventual banning. \*\*

Right, because people who contribute to the Board and occasionally give an unpopular opinion deserve to be banned. :rolleyes: Yep, can’t have a wide array of opinions here, that’s just plain unacceptable.

UnuMondo

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**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unumondo-kindly-go-to-hell-and-stay-there/160153/23 "2003-03-12T17:32:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by UnuMondo \*  
> \*\* I stand by what I say about writers like that. Slash fanfiction is primarily a high school/undergrad thing. Check out any such sight on the Internet and marvel at the level of maturity of the authors and designers. \*\*

Unlike, oh, say the majority of internet communities.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unumondo-kindly-go-to-hell-and-stay-there/160153/24 "2003-03-12T17:42:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by UnuMondo \*  
> \*\*Right, because people who contribute to the Board and occasionally give an unpopular opinion deserve to be banned. :rolleyes: \*\*

I suppose you could call the opinion that innocent children deserve to be bullied until they take their own lives in despair “unpopular”. Things that all decent people find morally repugnant are usually unpopular. But it’s not unpopularity that will get you banned, it’s being a jerk, and you sir are a Grade A jerk.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unumondo-kindly-go-to-hell-and-stay-there/160153/25 "2003-03-12T18:09:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lamia \*  
> \*\*I suppose you could call the opinion that innocent children deserve to be bullied until they take their own lives in despair “unpopular”. Things that all decent people find morally repugnant are usually unpopular. But it’s not unpopularity that will get you banned, it’s being a jerk, and you sir are a Grade A jerk. \*\*

Oh come on, **Lamia** - it’s obviously the fault of the nerds. I mean, the way they were acting, the way they were dressed – they were just _asking_ for it.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unumondo-kindly-go-to-hell-and-stay-there/160153/26 "2003-03-12T19:03:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jr8 \*  
> \*\*Oh come on, **Lamia** - it’s obviously the fault of the nerds. I mean, the way they were acting, the way they were dressed – they were just _asking_ for it. \*\*

Hmmm, maybe you’re right. The nerds should have known better than to go someplace alone where there might be bullies…

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**Author:** ![Fionn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Fionn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fionn)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unumondo-kindly-go-to-hell-and-stay-there/160153/27 "2003-03-12T20:18:53Z")

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I’m still waiting for a cite for UnuMondo’s assertion in Freyr’s GD thread that the majority of psychologists still consider homosexuality a mental disorder.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unumondo-kindly-go-to-hell-and-stay-there/160153/28 "2003-03-12T20:39:48Z")

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**Fionn** , don’t bother holding your breath. Facts don’t mean anything to such a man of opinion as **UnoMondo**.

[sub]He’s a jackass and doesn’t really care about facts if they refute what he’s saying, but if they agree with him he’ll hold onto them like he’ll die if he lets go. Just FYI[/sub]

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**Author:** ![FairyDust](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ccd318/32.png) [@FairyDust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyDust)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unumondo-kindly-go-to-hell-and-stay-there/160153/29 "2003-03-12T22:12:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by UnuMondo \*  
> \*\*I stand by what I say about writers like that. Slash fanfiction is primarily a high school/undergrad thing. Check out any such sight on the Internet and marvel at the level of maturity of the authors and designers.
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> UnuMondo \*\*

Is that just your opinion?

Can you back up this statement with any sites (cites?) that include demographic studies of writers and readers of slash?

If so, please share them with us.

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**Author:** ![Freyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freyr/32/5763_2.png) [@Freyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freyr)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unumondo-kindly-go-to-hell-and-stay-there/160153/30 "2003-03-12T22:39:46Z")

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\*\*Fionn wrote:

I’m still waiting for a cite for UnuMondo’s assertion in Freyr’s GD thread that the majority of psychologists still consider homosexuality a mental disorder.\*\*

And I’m waiting for him to answer the basic question of that thread: what’s the actual damage that homosexuality causes to society in general.

Like others have stated, I don’t think I’ll get an answer soon.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unumondo-kindly-go-to-hell-and-stay-there/160153/31 "2003-03-13T01:35:02Z")

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Some people work for decades asking important questions, or finding answers to important questions.

And some people can spend a month, or a week, answering legitimate questions with bullshit so unadulterated you’d swear you could actually _smell_ the bull mere feet away.

But it’s not the bull you smell; it’s a pile of the same “answers”.

Scientists are currently running experiments on steaming piles of bullshit that have, reportedly, achieved sentience. The mind boggles. I know I wouldn’t want to be waist-deep in **Uno** … er, bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unumondo-kindly-go-to-hell-and-stay-there/160153/32 "2003-03-14T06:57:17Z")

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> Slash fanfiction is primarily a high school/undergrad thing. Check out any such sight on the Internet and marvel at the level of maturity of the authors and designers.

I beg to differ.

I don’t care for slash myself (and no, FairyDust, that does not make me homophobic).

However I have several friends who are bright, witty, articulate, intelligent women well past the high school undergrad age who do write slash and very well written it is. More than one of them have a sizable fan base and a mailing list for their writings.

While I’m sure there are some that are as you described, it is by no means the majority from my experience.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unumondo-kindly-go-to-hell-and-stay-there/160153/33 "2003-03-14T07:24:18Z")

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A dear friend of mine loves to read slash. No, she’s not messed up because of it. I couldn’t even begin to try to analyse why some people like slash, but my friend is not a raving lunatic because she likes it.

But I do know more than a few geeks that love slash. Geekier than geeks. Geek squared. These people are GEEKY. But that doesn’t mean all slash fans are geeky. And hell—whatever floats their boat, I say.

Speaking from my own experience, though, I must say—I tire of slash fan fiction. I don’t want to read it. It doesn’t float my boat. I used to be a fan artist with a decent reputation, so I had more than a few slash writers try to “pitch” their stories to me, in the hopes that I’d illustrate for them. They were valiantly trying to contend that their story was somehow tapping into an existing homoerotic undertone in the show, or that it was a Serious story. And usually, it was crap. Crap with an obvious agenda to get two guys behave out of character (at least the “character” we knew from their movie or TV series) and get involved in a homosexual romance. I made an across-the-board policy to never illustrate slash. Didn’t want to read it, didn’t want to illustrate it, not for me. And besides, plenty of other artists _would_ illustrate for it, so no bit deal if I wouldn’t.

The worst example of what I call the “slash agenda” I saw of this was a slash romance between detective brothers Rick and A.J. of the TV show “Simon and Simon”. There is NO WAY that there were any existing sexual undertones between these two characters on the show. But yet some slash writer wrote a story about them, and it got published in a fanzine, too. Blech.

Sorry, that was somewhat OT, but I get in a rambly mood, what can I say?

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