# Unusual early morning visitor today...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-early-morning-visitor-today/699348>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 23, 2014, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-early-morning-visitor-today/699348 "2014-09-23T16:17:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![ZenBeam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@ZenBeam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZenBeam)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-early-morning-visitor-today/699348/21 "2014-09-24T22:21:27Z")

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> [@SpeedwayRyan](#):
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> Still, the most insane part of all is knocking on someone’s door at 6:30am. There’s kind of an unspoken rule there…you don’t call someone or knock on their door at 1am or 6:30am. Unless it’s an emergency or you know the person REALLY well, you do it during the reasonable hours that people are awake. This doesn’t sound like anything that couldn’t have waited until 9:30am.

That was my first thought as well, but you’d be able to see that there was a light on and people were up, so you wouldn’t be waking them up. And as **PSXer** said, you might be gone by 9:30.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-early-morning-visitor-today/699348/22 "2014-09-24T22:41:03Z")

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> [@ZenBeam](#):
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> That was my first thought as well, but you’d be able to see that there was a light on and people were up, so you wouldn’t be waking them up. And as **PSXer** said, you might be gone by 9:30.

Did the OP say his Mother knew the guy? Perhaps he knew she would be up that early.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-early-morning-visitor-today/699348/23 "2014-09-24T23:30:48Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> normal people are at work at 9:30
> 
> back in my day we got up when the sun rose and didn’t mind callers
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> you youngsters sleep too much

You’re supposed to be living in THE 80s, not in YOUR 80s. Keep your story straight.

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**Author:** ![DingoelGringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@DingoelGringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DingoelGringo)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-early-morning-visitor-today/699348/24 "2014-09-24T23:51:04Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> A man drives up the driveway and walks up on the porch, knocks on the door…at 6:30 AM…
> 
> He says he’s “from the town”, and he “wants permission to maintain the graveyard on the property”  
> (we have a small family graveyard down at the extreme far corner of the field, it’s a graveyard of the original owners of the house, a 230 year old Colonial, we currently maintain it ourselves) and that the town “sent a letter a couple weeks ago detailing this proposal”
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> we have not seen said letter, and our land is posted Private Property, no tresspassing, clearly posted, we are boring and have nothing to hide, the fields are Timothy and Alfalfa hay
> 
> what would your response be;
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> 1; sure, go ahead, less work for us  
> 2; do you have proof of your employer, who is your supervisor, who do I check with to verify this and why did you show up so early?  
> 3; no, go away, we maintain it ourselves  
> 4; get thee behind me, evil governmental minion of evil, you are not wanted, the Power of Freedom compels you!  
> 5; Cooper, go eat the government drone, he’s your new chew toy  
> 6; prepare to face litigation for trespassing, especially this early in the morning
> 
> Mom’s response was #2, as she was caught off guard by how early this idiot showed up, she’s now leaning strongly towards #3 (which i also recommended to her), my response would have been #3, but blunter and with a little more profanity and maybe a threat of #5
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> now that I’ve had some time to think it over, there’s another possibility…  
> we have a large, healthy population of deer on the property (12-15 at least) they are most emphatically _not_ shy or timid around human activity, even with Cooper with me, we can get around 35 to 50 yards from them before they bound off, and i’ve been able to close the distance even more, heck, yesterday evening, we were about 25 yards from a good sized doe before she saw us and bounded away
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> the land is posted no hunting, no tresspassing, but I’m sure there are unethical poachers (redundant, i know) and less-than-honest hunters who would _love_ to scope out the land and find good areas to hunt
> 
> too bad, jerks, it’s private property, and the deer are safe until _I_ decide i want to hunt them (it’s easier to keep the meat fresh that way, keeping it alive requires no refrigeration
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> 7; probably a poacher/hunter with less than honest intentions, too bad, sucks to be you, no hunting

From the city?how far from which city? I’d do as momma did and demand paperwork and tell him the “City” would call him if and when you worked out the details with them.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-early-morning-visitor-today/699348/25 "2014-09-25T01:09:14Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> normal people are at work at 9:30

OK, so the caller from the local government can swing by after most people _get back_ from work, say 6pm.

> [@](#):
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> back in my day we got up when the sun rose and didn’t mind callers

Dude, how old are you? I’m 60 years old, and when I was a boy, the only people stopping by at 6:30am were the paper boy and the milkman, and neither of them knocked, just left the newspaper and the milk, and went on to the next house on their respective routes.

ETA: At any rate, my response would be, “come back at a reasonable hour.” I’d ask for ID and so forth when they returned.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-early-morning-visitor-today/699348/26 "2014-09-25T01:34:39Z")

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I’m unsure why everyone is so concerned about his lack of ID/credentials. It would be a pretty amazing coincidence if the city sent a letter to the house saying they were going to send someone there to talk you OP’s mom about taking care of the graveyard and then a few days later someone not affiliated with the city randomly showed up and asked about taking care of the graveyard.

Yeah yeah yeah, the whole 6:30 thing, I got it, but the visit should have been expected. I mean, when I get a letter from the electric company saying that someone will be out in the next 7-10 days to swap my meter I don’t run out there demanding to see an ID when someone shows up and starts pulling the meter off the side of my house. OTOH, that time when they didn’t a letter and the guy showed up with a minivan and asked me for tools, that was different.  
My WAG is that he was on his way to go about is thing with the other two graves and figured he might as well just ask about the rest of them as long as he was there to see if they gave him the go-ahead (and probably just assumed they did).

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-early-morning-visitor-today/699348/27 "2014-09-25T02:01:29Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> You’re supposed to be living in THE 80s, not in YOUR 80s. Keep your story straight.

I’m getting up at 5:30 Ante Meridian for the assholes I work for.  
Get a life!  
Nonetheless, I’d probably shoot someone knocking on the door at 6:30.  
:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-early-morning-visitor-today/699348/28 "2014-09-25T02:25:30Z")

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I know it was a joke, but #5 is a really bad idea unless it’s a life and death situation for you, and you need time to get your gun. It could very well be a death sentence for the dog.

Otherwise, I’d prolly chew the guy out at least a little for waking me up that early, demand identification, verify his story…and bitch at whoever verified it for letting the guy wake me up that early, strongly suggesting that should never happen again…and then grant permission.

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-early-morning-visitor-today/699348/29 "2014-09-25T02:45:16Z")

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Are the graves on your private property or not? Is there some weird legal rule saying you must let the city do what they want with them?

I guess I’m wondering what would happen legally if you told the guy to stay off your private property.

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**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-early-morning-visitor-today/699348/30 "2014-09-25T06:43:33Z")

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Surveying for a big power station going in. The rail line was coming right through about here.

Owner comes out with an attitude. Says we can’t survey without his permission, wrong in Oklahoma at that time.

Asks what we are surveying for.  
“Railroad,”

“Absolutely not, I won’t let them and I’m gonna shoot you guys if you don’t get off my land.”

We went out on the road, took a shot clear across the property, and the boy’s running the ‘level’ had to go around by road. Was not worth fighting about, cost us about 30 minutes.

Yeah, the railroad line went right across where we said it would.

There was this old lady with a 30.30 that I was very polite to.

Then the guy with a very mean dog who came to accost us, I was carrying a Crocodile Dundee knife and had it out behind my back until we had talked things down a bit. It was one scary dog.

Now I live in the land of purple paint. And they usually mean it.

All this was some years ago.

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