# Unusual sequence numbers for movies

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**Created:** [June 9, 2013, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538 "2013-06-09T10:17:31Z")
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### Author: ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2013, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/1 "2013-06-09T10:17:31Z")

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A comon way to indicate a movie sequel is to tack a 2 or II onto the name of the original. Sometimes it’s “part 2” or something like that. Subtitles are sometimes added after the number. There are numerous examples of this: Shrek 2, Rocky II, Terminator 2: Judgement Day, Star Trek 2: the Wrath of Khan, Rambo: First Blood Part II, etc.

But sometimes they use an unusual sequence. Instead of the first sequel being number 2, they take a number already in the first movie’s title and increment it. I can only think of a small number of examples of this:

The Three Musketeers (1973)/The Four Musketeers (1974)  
Ocean’s Eleven (2001)/Ocean’s Twelve (2004)/Ocean’s Thirteen (2007)  
101 Dalmations (1996)/102 Dalmations (2000)

Are there any other cases of this?

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_28 days later_ and _28 weeks later_

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Then there are all those where they make the ‘2’ part of the title, for example:

Fast and Furious / 2 Fast, 2 Furious  
Look Who’s Talking / Look Who’s Talking Too  
Madagascar / Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa

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Not QUITE what the OP is looking for, but the Naked Gun sequels were titled 2½ and 33⅓, rather than 2 and 3.

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And who could forget The Naked Gun 2 1/2 and 33 1/3?

ETA: D’oh!

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Alien / Alien_s_…

Die Hard / Die Harder / Die Hard, With A Vengance / Live Free Or Die Hard / A Good Day To Die Hard / Just Die Hard Already!  
(OK, I made that last one up, and some of the movies do have numbering, but it varies by country of release)

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I’d maybe include “Before Sunrise,” “Before Sunset,” and “After Midnight” as rather similar.  
Also, Apted’s every-seven-years documentaries make for an interesting numerical series: “7 Up,” “14 Up,” “21 Up,” lather, rinse, repeat.

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Does [2010](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_%28film%29) (the sequel to **2001** ) count?

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Or the Airport movies – '75, '77, '79 (did I miss any?)

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Rambo: First Blood Part II

They should have gone with _Second Blood_ for that one. 😉

_I Know What You Did Last Summer_ was followed by _I Still Know What You Did Last Summer_. Apparently there was also a third one after that which was straight-to-DVD, called _I’ll Always Know What You Did Last Summer_.

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#### Post date: [June 9, 2013, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/11 "2013-06-09T11:41:55Z")

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Jaws, Jawser, Jawsest.

Wait…is that right?

mmm

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> Jaws, Jawser, Jawsest.
> 
> Wait…is that right?

No, I think the second one was _Jaw Harder_.

If we’ve left strict OP territory by now, I want to mention the sequel to _Analyze This_, called _Analyze That_. I guess the third film will be _Analyze Some Other Stuff._

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There’s the [Up Series](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_Series) of documentaries:

_Seven Up!  
7 Plus Seven   
21 Up   
28 Up   
35 Up   
42 Up   
49 Up   
56 Up_

Took a couple tries to get a consistent naming going.

While made for TV, they are released in theaters. The most recent one finished the week at 101 in the US [box office](http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekly/chart/?yr=2013&wk=22&p=.htm). (While _M_ was at 97, talk about box office legs. _Metropolis_ peaked at 88 in late 2011. Must … stop … reading … BoxOfficeMojo.)

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_Shanghai Noon_\* was followed by _Shanghai Knights_  
The Amnesty International benefit series _The Secret Policeman’s Ball_\*\* was followed by non-numbered by title-related sequels like _The Secret Policeman’s Other Ball_, _The Secret Policeman’s Biggest Ball_, and _The Secret Policeman’s Ball [year]_, as well as a lot of unrelated titles. When I first saw one of the middle ones, without context, I found the title irritatingly obscure.

\*The title itself echoes and parodies _High Noon_

\*\* Ther had been other titles prior to this.

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Dracula, Son of Dracula, Bride of Dracula, Tomb of Dracula, Curse of Dracula, Ghost of Dracula, Curse of the Tome of the Ghost of the Bride of the Son of Dracula

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> I want to mention the sequel to _Analyze This_, called _Analyze That_. I guess the third film will be _Analyze Some Other Stuff._

Nah. Go Analyze Yourself, followed by Analyze Your Mother (known in some markets as Yeah? Well, Your Mother’s An Analyst).

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After _Missing in Action II: The Beginning_ came out, one critic suggested that the next film in the series should be _Missing in Action III: The Middle_.

Hey, how about Disney’s **The Lion King 1 1/2**?  
Or **X-Men 1.5**?

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There’s _First Blood_, _Rambo: First Blood part two_, _Rambo 3_ (even though it’s the second “Rambo” movie), with the fourth film in the _First Blood_ series being called _Rambo_.

😕

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Planet of the Apes  
Beneath the Planet of the Apes  
Escape from the Planet of the Apes  
Conquest of the Planet of the Apes  
Battle for the Planet of the Apes

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The Thin Man (1934)  
After the Thin Man (1936)  
Another Thin Man (1939)  
Shadow of the Thin Man (1941)  
The Thin Man Goes Home (1945)  
Song of the Thin Man (1947)

Frankenstein  
Bride of Frankenstein  
Son of Frankenstein  
Ghost of Frankenstein

Hoodwinked!  
Hoodwinked Too! Hood vs. Evil

Think Like a Man  
Think Like a Man Too

```
Teen Wolf
Teen Wolf Too 

```

Shrek  
Shrek 2  
Shrek the Third  
Shrek Forever After (Shrek Four-ever after, get it?)

Henry IV  
Henry V  
Henry VI  
Henry VIII\*

\*What? No Henry VII? Apparently not.

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