# Unusual sequence numbers for movies **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 9, 2013, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538 "2013-06-09T10:17:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![rsat3acr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@rsat3acr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rsat3acr)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/21 "2013-06-09T16:37:22Z")
Road Warrior Mad Max Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome The Born Losers Billy Jack The Trial of Billy Jack Billy Jack Goes to Washington Probably not quite what you wanted but in a similar vein to other submissions in the thread ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/22 "2013-06-09T17:37:05Z")
Then there’s _Leonard Part 6_. ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/23 "2013-06-09T19:31:33Z")
the real title of The Road Warrior is Mad Max 2. They just changed it for the American release ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/24 "2013-06-09T19:32:08Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Henry IV > Henry V > Henry VI > Henry VIII\* > > \*What? No Henry VII? Apparently not. And, in chronological order, the plays were Henvy VI Part II Henry VI, Part III Henry VI, Part I Henry IV, Part I Henry IV, Part II Henry V Henry VIII ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/25 "2013-06-09T19:46:15Z")
> [@rsat3acr](#): > > Road Warrior > Mad Max > Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome _Mad Max: Fury Road_ is currently in production. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/26 "2013-06-09T20:02:43Z")
The sequel to [Piranha 3D](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0464154/) is [Piranha 3DD](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1714203/). If they ever make a third installment, I have a tagline ready: “We’re going to need a bigger bra.” ---
**Author:** ![BlueMit11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@BlueMit11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlueMit11)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/27 "2013-06-09T20:25:24Z")
_The Madness of King George_, then _The Madness of King George III_. Either they skipped the second one or it was straight-to-VHS. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/28 "2013-06-09T20:44:30Z")
_Bleu_, _Blanc_ and _Rouge_ were not exactly sequels per se, but the were a trilogy. ---
**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/29 "2013-06-09T20:48:34Z")
The Dark Knight The Dark Knight Rises ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/30 "2013-06-09T21:00:22Z")
Of course there’s the Star Wars movie saga: 1977 - _Star Wars_ 1980 - _The Empire Strikes Back_ (with “Episode V” in the opening crawl) 1981 - _Star Wars_ is rereleased and now has “Episode IV: A New Hope” in the opening crawl 1983 - _Return of the Jedi_ (episode VI) [pre-release the title was _Revenge of the Jedi_] then a loooong gap until the crappy prequel episodes I-III. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/31 "2013-06-09T21:01:58Z")
They also do this with Popes: Pope John Pope Paul Pope John Paul Pope John Paul II I was kind of hoping for a Pope George Ringo but somehow that musta gotten kiboshed. ---
**Author:** ![rsat3acr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@rsat3acr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rsat3acr)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/32 "2013-06-09T21:09:14Z")
> [@PSXer](#): > > the real title of The Road Warrior is Mad Max 2. They just changed it for the American release Thanks, didn’t know that. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/33 "2013-06-09T21:21:31Z")
Ducking… Twilight, New Moon, Eclipse, Breaking Dawn (I and II) ---
**Author:** ![heathen\_earthling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/13edae/32.png) [@heathen\_earthling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heathen_earthling)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/34 "2013-06-09T21:38:55Z")
_Jurassic Park_ (1993), _The Lost World: Jurassic Park_ (1997), _Jurassic Park III_ (2001). There is no movie called _Jurassic Park II_. ---
**Author:** ![ruh-roh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ruh-roh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruh-roh)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/35 "2013-06-09T22:18:51Z")
The examples you give aren’t really to sequence numbers. In the case of the Musketeers, the Three Musketeers are Athos, Porthos, and Aramis. d’Artagnan is just a wannabee. At the end of the movie he is made a real Musketeer and so in the next movie there are four. If you want to follow the Musketeer’s stories to there end you have to continue with “Twenty Years After”, “The Vicomte of Bragelonne: Ten Years Later”, and “The Man In The Iron Mask” (and yes, the "Ten Years Later story follows the Twenty Years After one). In the Ocean’s movies, that is the number of people in “the gang”. Well, okay, convenient that for each new movie they added one person. And in the Dalmations movies, well if you don’t get the little suckers neutered or spayed your bound to end up with more. Besides, I have read you can’t make a decent coat without at least 130 of the little buggers. Now, you want weird numbering, think “Star Wars”. There they even changed the numbering of the originals. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/36 "2013-06-09T22:24:53Z")
> [@ruh-roh](#): > > Now, you want weird numbering, think “Star Wars”. There they even changed the numbering of the originals. I still say that Episode 4 numbered first. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/37 "2013-06-09T22:34:26Z")
> [@ruh-roh](#): > > Now, you want weird numbering, think “Star Wars”. There they even changed the numbering of the originals. How did they change them? While Star Wars had no number on its opening scroll, Empire Strikes Back had 5(V) and Return of the Jedi had 6(VI) in their opening scrolls from the beginning. Well before it was a sure thing George would make the prequels. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/38 "2013-06-09T22:35:36Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > I still say that Episode 4 numbered first. Second. It got its “IV” on their April 10, 1981, 11 months after Empire Strikes Back came out. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/39 "2013-06-09T22:49:18Z")
I covered Star Wars a few posts up: > [@Tangent](#): > > Of course there’s the Star Wars movie saga: > > 1977 - _Star Wars_ > 1980 - _The Empire Strikes Back_ (with “Episode V” in the opening crawl) > 1981 - _Star Wars_ is rereleased and now has “Episode IV: A New Hope” in the opening crawl > 1983 - _Return of the Jedi_ (episode VI) [pre-release the title was _Revenge of the Jedi_] > > then a loooong gap until the crappy prequel episodes I-III. ---
**Author:** ![ruh-roh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ruh-roh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruh-roh)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2013, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/40 "2013-06-09T23:04:26Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > How did they change them? While Star Wars had no number on its opening scroll, Empire Strikes Back had 5(V) and Return of the Jedi had 6(VI) in their opening scrolls from the beginning. Well before it was a sure thing George would make the prequels. > > 😕 You are probably correct about the opening story line. I don’t remember when I first saw them. I do remember that the theater marquee and posters didn’t make mention of the numbering. I would pass it several times a week between classes and a favorite watering hole. I didn’t think the whole numbering scheme came about until their re-release prior to the prequels. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538.md?page=3)