# Unusual sequence numbers for movies **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 9, 2013, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538 "2013-06-09T10:17:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/41 "2013-06-10T00:20:58Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > And, in chronological order, the plays were > > Henvy VI Part II > Henry VI, Part III > Henry VI, Part I > Henry IV, Part I > Henry IV, Part II > Henry V > Henry VIII There’s a [Henry VI](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1393706/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) irregardless. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/42 "2013-06-10T00:22:50Z")
> [@ruh-roh](#): > > If you want to follow the Musketeer’s stories to there end you have to continue with “Twenty Years After”, “The Vicomte of Bragelonne: Ten Years Later”, and “The Man In The Iron Mask” (and yes, the "Ten Years Later story follows the Twenty Years After one). Nitpick: _The Man in the Iron Mask_ is the last few chapters of _The Viscount of Bragelonne_. V of B is a very long novel, and English-language publishers usually split it up into three or four sections. When split three ways, the sections are titled _The Viscount of Bragelonne_, _Louise de la Valiere_, and _The Man in the Iron Mask_. When split into four sections, one of the middle two is titled _Ten Years Later._ My nominee is the _House_ series: _House_. _House II: The Second Story_, which has no connection to the original story, except that it also takes place in a magical house where the kitchen door does not always lead to the kitchen. _The Horror Show_, which has no connection to either of the first two, but was released in the UK and Australia under the title _House III_. _House IV_, which is actually a sequel to the first movie. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/43 "2013-06-10T00:30:30Z")
Did the original _Star Wars_ have “A New Hope” at the top of the scroll, or was that added later? ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/44 "2013-06-10T00:38:22Z")
Here’s a weird example I found while googling around: _[Surf II](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surf_II)_. There was never a _Surf I_. Just to make things even more confusing, it was also marketed with a subheading: _Surf II - The End of the Trilogy._ ---
**Author:** ![Flywheel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Flywheel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flywheel)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/45 "2013-06-10T00:44:11Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Shrek > Shrek 2 > Shrek the Third > Shrek Forever After (Shrek Four-ever after, get it?) Which would have followed the same numbering pattern as _Blackadder_ if they’d gone with _Shrek Forever After_’s original title: _Shrek Goes Fourth_. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/46 "2013-06-10T00:46:34Z")
> [@For You](#): > > Did the original _Star Wars_ have “A New Hope” at the top of the scroll, or was that added later? No, it was not in the original version in 1977. “Episode IV: A New Hope” was added to the opening crawl in the 1981 rerelease of _Star Wars_. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/47 "2013-06-10T00:55:54Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Second. It got its “IV” on their April 10, 1981, 11 months after Empire Strikes Back came out. Han: Whoosh! Greedo: Bantha pudu! ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/48 "2013-06-10T00:58:33Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > _28 days later_ and _28 weeks later_ 28 Days 28 Days Later 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/49 "2013-06-10T02:05:33Z")
The 1979 film _[When a Stranger Calls](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_a_Stranger_Calls_%281979_film%29)_ had a made-for-TV sequel in 1993 called [_When a Stranger Calls Back_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_a_Stranger_Calls_Back). I assume that the franchise will be continued at some point with _When a Stranger Leaves a Message_ and _When a Stranger Sends You a Text_. ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/50 "2013-06-10T02:21:37Z")
Did I miss someone posting _Hot Shots! Part Deux_? ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/51 "2013-06-10T02:24:37Z")
And, hot off the presses: I actually found one that satisfies the question in the OP. If recent news stories are to be believed, the sequel to _21 Jump Street_, set for release in 2014, will be titled… (drumroll…) [_22 Jump Street._](http://www.imdb.com/news/ni55267501/) ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/52 "2013-06-10T05:04:38Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > _Shanghai Noon_\* was followed by _Shanghai Knights_ If they made a third (which I had hopes for) it was supposed to be called _Shanghai Dawn_. > [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Shrek > Shrek 2 > Shrek the Third > Shrek Forever After (Shrek Four-ever after, get it?) Which almost exactly mirrors: _The Black Adder_ _Blackadder II_ _Blackadder the Third_ _Blackadder Goes Forth_ > [@heathen\_earthling](#): > > There is no movie called _Jurassic Park II_. If only that were even more true than it is. > [@Mangetout](#): > > Fast and Furious / 2 Fast, 2 Furious Then the bafflingly inconsistent: _The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift_ _Fast and Furious_ _Fast 5_ _Fast and Furious 6_ Meanwhile, when the Tim Burton _Batman_ series came about, there was some nerd talk that it ought to be: _Batman_ _Batman Re **tu** rns_ (Re2rns?) _Batman **Tri** umphant_ _Batman **For** ever_ …but they went the boring route instead. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/53 "2013-06-10T05:08:27Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > Meanwhile, when the Tim Burton _Batman_ series came about, there was some nerd talk that it ought to be: > _Batman_ > _Batman Re **tu** rns_ (Re2rns?) > _Batman **Tri** umphant_ > _Batman **For** ever_ > > …but they went the boring route instead. _Batman Fi…re Joel Schumacher already._ ---
**Author:** ![CorneaGenii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@CorneaGenii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CorneaGenii)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/54 "2013-06-10T05:23:53Z")
Not mentioned yet. _The Whole Nine Yards_ _The Whole Ten Yards_ and _Meet The Parents_ _Meet The Fockers_ _Little Fockers_ ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/55 "2013-06-10T06:44:26Z")
> [@BlueMit11](#): > > _The Madness of King George_, then _The Madness of King George III_. Either they skipped the second one or it was straight-to-VHS. Very funny ha ha. That’s like the Encyclopedia Britannica I once owned that had successive entries for Malcolm II, Malcolm III, Malcolm IV, and Malcolm X. I’ve always wondered what happened to Malcolms V - IX… > [@ruh-roh](#): > > The examples you give aren’t really to sequence numbers. … I disagree. The only real reason for those numbers was to indicate the moves were sequels. Thanks to everyone for all the contributions, even though most (virtually all) did not answer the OP. But it was an entertaining discussion anyway, and that’s what we’re really here for. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/56 "2013-06-10T07:15:59Z")
KiDULTHOOD and AdULTHOOD ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/57 "2013-06-10T08:54:02Z")
I’ll note that _22 Jump Street_ and _The Whole Ten Yards_ are exactly the kind of thing I’m looking for. The 7\*N UP series is close but not quite there. The same for Airport \. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/58 "2013-06-10T13:22:15Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > They also do this with Popes: > > Pope John > Pope Paul > Pope John Paul > Pope John Paul II I was really hoping at the time that JPII would have gone with Pope Paul John Paul. The Fibonacci Popes! ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/59 "2013-06-10T15:34:08Z")
I’m the first to mention Manhunter, Silence of the Lambs, Red Dragon, Hannibal and Hannibal Rising? ---
**Author:** ![Renifer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Renifer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renifer)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unusual-sequence-numbers-for-movies/660538/60 "2013-06-11T05:06:52Z")
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