Poly, as always, you hit the nail on the head and addressed the OP at the same time. I have been grooming some clients for court next week and you are exactly correct. You summarized what evidence is all about in a way that many miss.
I’m not sure I understand the question. More accurate? I guess I would have to say hyperskeptics are quite consistent. After all, they are skeptical about everything.
I see the differentiation between the two terms as being,
Hyperskepticism is a belief that questions everthing, even it’s own skeptical beliefs.
Inconsistent skepticism which is only skeptical about that which it chooses to be skeptical about.
In other words if a person were truly skeptical they would be skeptical about Banks ’ claims as well as counterclaims. I don’t see that here.
Does that clear it up?
Here’s the problem with trying to use this event to catalyze a discussion about “hyperskepticism”. Right now, you have no objective evidence that this ever actually happened. Produce a tape that shows the episode in question. Or at least use an event that at one time was considered an urban legend, but was later “upgraded” to an actual event based on the evidence. I’m sure their is something out there that would fit this criteria. Then try to launch a discussion about “hyperskepticism”.
If you want to accept evidence based solely on a person’s certainty that it occurred, then you must be willing to accept all accounts of alien abduction, etc.
Guys, guys, guys, you are all missing a monumentally important point, here, deliberately or otherwise. Not only does Lib claim to have witnessed this event himself, he claims that Edlyn also witnessed it on a re-airing of the show in the last two months. We aren’t talking about maybe the tape degraded, or was edited, or was lost, or that show was never taped; dammit, he says it aired sometime since the beginning of December. If it aired in December, there’s a tape, folks.
The Game Show Network, according to their schedule, runs 2 episodes per day during the week: The Newlywed Game at 7:00 p.m. ET (repeating at 11:00 p.m. and 3:30 a.m.), and The New Newlywed Game at 7:30 p.m. ET (repeating at 11:30 p.m.). They also air The Newlywed Game at 7:30 p.m. Saturdays.
So, we have 26 airings per week of this show, 15 of which are repeats during that broadcast day. Let’s be generous yet realistic and speculate that each airing, on average, receives a tenth of a rating point. There being 99 million TVHH in the Neilsen population, that means over 900,000 people per airing could have seen this show.
You don’t think that, out of maybe 900,000 people, one of them was watching and said, “Oh my god, it’s the ‘in the butt’ episode! Let’s tape it on the repeat later!!”? Or “Let’s call the Game Show Net and see if we can get a transcript!”? If you came up with this tape and provided it to Snopes, or to Dick Clark’s “Bloopers” show, or the TV Party web site, you’d be a popular culture hero, I assure you.
According to my math, there were 23 weekdays and four Saturdays in December. That adds to 50 episodes. If someone wants to do more work than I’m willing to do, they can:
Contact the Game Show Network and see if they can provide production codes/episode numbers for the episodes airing in December 1999.
Contact the syndicator/distributor, and see if they can purchase tapes or transcripts of those 50 episodes.
50 half-hour episodes. 3 hours of viewing a day will get you done in a little over a week. A week of your life, to possibly claim $10,000 from Bob Eubanks. Who’s game?
“It’s my considered opinion you’re all a bunch of sissies!”–Paul’s Grandfather
Phil: I didn’t miss your point, I guess I was confused about when he saw the episode. I thought it was so long ago that there wouldn’t be a home version. If it did happen recently then you are right there would be a tape. AND it would be worth going after!
Have we established an approximate date for the “crime”?
hardcore: Yes, it probably wouldn’t be profitable to use “this” event to determine “hyperskepticism” however I believe that there is such a thing as inconsistent skepticism. I don’t think we need to use this case to prove it. There are many cases for it.
FWIW, I searched all over the Game Show Network page for some e-mail or snail mail contact information and could not find any. They’re owned by Sony Entertainment Television, so I probably need to check there, but my interest is not that keen. Suffice to say that I’ve provided plenty of direction here for finding out whether it happened, I don’t care whether it did or didn’t happen, I’m doubtful that it did happen, but I am willing to be corrected.
“It’s my considered opinion you’re all a bunch of sissies!”–Paul’s Grandfather
The fact is, I saw that particular episode one evening on the Game channel. I know that it was sometime after 7:30pm on a weekday, and I know that it was after I had digital cable installed, but before December 6th. So… the rerun appeared during that time period. Though the contestant did change his answer, I remember the giggling from the audience when it was his wife’s turn to answer the question. From the attire of the contestants, my guess is that the show was taped sometime in the 80’s.
I also have a second “witness” account to report. Out of curiousity, I asked my boss this morning if he had watched that episode. His reply was that no, that he did not see it, however, he remembered it clearly. He received a phone call from his sister one evening, and she was in tears from hysterical laughter. She said to him, “You’ll never believe what I just saw on the Newlywed Game!” and proceeded to tell him what happened. For quite a while after that, they would repeat “Mo debly, up the butt”. This occurred while my boss was living in Shreveport, and he thought it was around 1987.