Just a note on false memories. For years and years I was CONVINCED that I saw a live presentation of “Mary Poppins”. I remembered DISTINCTLY that Mary floated down out of the sky (you know, the scene where she first approaches the house).
Granted, I was 3 or 4 yars old, but even into my teens I was certain that what I saw was live. I realize now (after having seen the movie since) that I was mistaken.
The point it that what I saw and what I BELIEVED I saw were different.
Lib: Lisa B (no relation ) noted
over at Snopes’ site that the $10,000 offer still existed at least as of Feb. 1999. You can find reference to it at http://www.tvbarn.com/021699.html - look just above “Reader Mail” - where it says:
Lisa suggested that an interested person could find websites that collect and trade game show tapes (she did a Google search on “Newlywed Game blooper” or “Bob Eubanks tape” and got a bunch - and many of the listings mentioned highlights of the game offered for trade). If the tape exists anywhere, it should be findable on such sites (especially if it just aired recently on the Game Show Network). Of course, if it were there, Eubanks would probably already be out $10,000…
I think you folks are coming at this from the wrong angle (no pun intended). If the $10k episode did exist, wouldn’t the person who said it come collect their dough? If it was originally aired in the 80’s, it would follow that there would be enough vcr’s out and about that the person who was on would have had their mom/dad/whatever tape their ‘look at me, I’m on TV’ moment.
That is, unless when Dad heard his little princess telling countless millions about her experimentation with anal sex, he threw the vcr out the window…
They say the Lord loves drunks, fools and little children.
Two out of three ain’t bad.
Assuming that he’s still alive, assuming that he isn’t in prison, assuming that he knows about the offer, assuming that he preserved the tape for twenty years, assuming that he has no reason to avoid publicity, assuming that his wife and family is not embarassed by the memory, assuming that needs the money, and assuming that he is not incapacitated in some way, it does seem like he would say something.
This won’t add anything to the OP (so why post, right?), but Chuck Barris admittedly encouraged actors to participate on the “Newlywed Game” and the “Dating Game,” just in case the “real people” weren’t funny enough.
So a lot of the “couples” on “Newlywed” were just actors, too.
I don’t really care if this “up the butt” thing is true or not, but when someone, or more than one someone, claims to have seen it, and explains how they reacted, what the did, etc., when they saw it, I tend to believe them.
I can see why a tape of an ep. of the Newlywed Game might not be readily available. And, if this show was aired recently, who out there would tape it? By the time the hilarious question was asked and answered, a sharp-eyed person with their finger on the VCR remote would have had barely enough time to hit the “record” button. And we all know that it takes a few seconds for the VCR to prime itself and start recording. Enough time for the moment to be missed. The only other way for it to have been taped is if someone out there tapes THEM ALL, and then lovingly watches every second, of every one. Most people have a little more of a life than that.
I don’t know if it happened or not, I wasn’t there. But I take an “eyewitness” account more seriously than some person who didn’t see it, but still claims it couldn’t have happened.
I find it amusing that some of you believe that I have a false memory concerning this episode.
For the record, my digital cable was installed by 5p.m. on August 31, 1999. I have the work order right in front of me.
With the change of service, I now receive about 150 more channels for viewing, one of which is the Game channel on Time Warner. This channel airs a lot of reruns of game shows such as the Match Game, Family Feud, Dating Game, Newlywed Game, etc.
I have viewed the Newlywed Game reruns approximately 5 or 6 times since August 31st. It was during one of these viewings that this question was asked. When Libertarian brought the subject up the other day, I immediately recalled that episode that I recently watched.
For some background information, let me add that I have never heard any rumors about the incident, nor did I ever watch this show on any regular basis. If I recall correctly, this show aired during the afternoon on weekdays and I have been employed full time since 1982.
Do I have a tape of it? Of course not! Why would anyone tape a game show?
You can stand tall without standing on someone. You can be a victor without having victims. -Harriet Woods-
I find it amusing that you are still discussing this and asserting your correctness even with everything else that has been presented.
FYI, the question was actually asked a number of times. I would not be at all surprised to hear that you saw an episode with that question. It is not the question that is at issue here. It is the alleged answer.
I understand that false memories exist and am even willing to admit that the three of us might be under some kind of false memory delusion. That said, nothing that I find compelling, including Eubanks’ assertion, has been said here to discredit what we remember.
You and others have presented plausible reasons why the episode might not have aired, but they are merely offsetting reasons and are no more plausible than the reasons that it might have indeed aired.
Like I say, I appreciate what you’re saying, but you seem 100% convinced of your view without any experience whatsoever in the matter and without any preponderance of evidence that is not drawn from the circumstance of general false memory. I would appreciate it if you would at least admit a bias.
Lib, I’ve been trying to get you to look at this objectively the entire time. What would my bias be? Reality? Hell, yes, I’m biased towards reality. I’m biased towards the evidence, which in this case directly contradicts your memories. We’ve been through this already, and while I think it’s admirable that you would jump in to defend your fiance, that doesn’t mean I’m going to admit some non-existent bias. I’m not quite sure how you can claim that I have no experience in the matter, considering I have explained the experience I have. Did you miss it? Here it is again, from my message of 10:53 AM on 1/14:
And this didn’t even mention my other involvement in the false memory area.
This thread has “Up The Butt” in its title, and yet of the 100+ messages that have been posted to it, NONE of them has been by Satan.
But seriously, folks:
Edlyn, if as you say you’ve only been receiving the Game Show Network since the end of last August, and if as Libertarian says you saw the episode in question some time in December, that would narrow down which episode it could be to one that was aired on one particular network in one particular month. Why not call or write to the Game Show Network, and ask them for a list of all the Newlywed Game and New Newlywed Game episodes that they aired in December 1999? I’m sure each episode has some unique identifier that it’s labelled with (e.g., “episode 853”, “originally aired 7/14/79”, “3rd of 5 filmed 3/23/79”, “Up The Butt 1979”, etc.). Then, if you or a friend can get hold of a Newlywed Game or New Newlywed Game archive, you or he can watch each episode to find that $10,000 nugget of gold. Or wait for the episode in question to come on the Game Show Network again – they might run these shows in their original broadcast order, for all I know.
The truth, as always, is more complicated than that.
Just for the record, I said that I thought it might have been in December based on a couple of briefs comments Edlyn made when I asked her about it. I didn’t realize that it was the 6th when she went to see Dawson, which means that it was most likely before December.
(David, I am not changing my story about the “up the butt” episode by correcting myself with respect to Edlyn’s recollection, so don’t even go there.)
[OFF TOPIC]Excuse me folks, but where are our manners? Edlyn, welcome to our happ- uhh, spirited family of posters. I sincerely hope that, the acrimonious echoes of this thread notwithstanding, you find your visits to this board to be intellectually stimulating, entertaining, and just plain worthwhile. Your beloved has shown himself to be a man of wit, intelligence, class, and compassion when in our midst, and I would be much delighted for the opportunity to discern similar qualities in you.
At the risk of seeming inappropriately familiar, I hope all is well with your grandson.[/OFF TOPIC]
Edlyn, correct me if I missed it, but you have never said that you saw “the answer” which was “in the butt, Bob.”
All you have ever said is you saw the episode where the question was asked about where was the most unusual place…
David made this point a few posts back, but I think not everyone, including Lib, seems to realize that you are only saying that there was an episode in which the “question” was asked.
Did you, Edlyn, hear a contestant say “in the butt, Bob” or words to that effect? If you did, then I am spending my share of the 10K tonight.
What was presented was not applicable to my particular case.
It was because of the answer that I remembered it. Maybe anal intercourse (the subject or practice of) is more prevalent in other individuals lives, but it is not in mine.
Tracer:
It was not in December. I had previously stated that it was after digital cable was installed, but before December 6th. I have since narrowed the time period to be between Spetember 1st and December 5th.
Is that taxable income? Would it require additional tax forms? Nah. I’ll sell my car for cash instead.
kaylasdad99:
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Thank you very much! And, yes, I do enjoy visiting this board whenever possible because of the quality that it is.
Libertarian paints a true portrait of himself. It is because of those very qualities (and others, too) that I was drawn to him over three years ago.
I hope that I won’t disappoint you!
I do not consider it inappropriate at all. Each kind thought for Dawson is precious. Today was his third day of receiving chemo for the first time. I haven’t called yet this evening to check up on him (the chemo today was the strongest yet), but he has been handling it surprisingly well. We just take one hour at a time, one day at a time. Thank you for your thoughts and wishes.
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samclem:
I was casually watching the show. What really caught my attention was his answer.
The beginning of his sentence was difficult to understand, but he did say butt, and immediately after he said it, it was quite clear that he meant anal intercourse. I immediately thought of his wife and her embarrassment of this being revealed.
As to the exact words, I have now read too many versions in this thread to be absolutely sure anymore. (Note: See, David? I am perfectly capable of applying what has been presented when it is actually appropriate to do so.)
You can stand tall without standing on someone. You can be a victor without having victims. -Harriet Woods-
Additional forms, no. Taxable income, unfortunately yes. Just like winning the State Lottery. (Or winning the Newlywed Game, for that matter.)
Given the average American tax bracket, and the difference between the high blue-book value of a car and the pittance you can get for it by selling it through a newspaper ad, you’d probably make more money donating it to Charity and taking a tax deduction.
The truth, as always, is more complicated than that.