# Upcoming Obamacare SCOTUS case in a 8 member Supreme Court

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upcoming-obamacare-scotus-case-in-a-8-member-supreme-court/921120>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 21, 2020, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upcoming-obamacare-scotus-case-in-a-8-member-supreme-court/921120 "2020-09-21T04:44:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upcoming-obamacare-scotus-case-in-a-8-member-supreme-court/921120/21 "2021-06-17T21:58:38Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> No, they didn’t address the constitutional issue.

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> No, SCOTUS didn’t say a damn thing about constitutionality of the individual mandate.

Yes, you’re both right. But how many futile challenges have to fail before the GOP will acknowledge that they’re not going to be able to overturn the ACA via the courts? Never mind, we all know the answer.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upcoming-obamacare-scotus-case-in-a-8-member-supreme-court/921120/22 "2021-06-17T22:07:00Z")

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I think they voted to overturn it more than 50 times, so we probably have a ways to go.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upcoming-obamacare-scotus-case-in-a-8-member-supreme-court/921120/23 "2021-06-18T15:44:41Z")

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Well, yes, but the reasoning behind the lack of standing is that without the mandate penalty, there is no harm. No harm, no standing. Like trying a murder case where no one actually died.

One has to wonder: was getting rid of the penalty on the individual mandate the plan all along? Once it was passed the Congressional haggling, the ACA gets passed, then the individual mandate “gets taken out” at some later point, with no real effect on the law’s intent of getting healthcare to more Americans…hmmmmm.

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upcoming-obamacare-scotus-case-in-a-8-member-supreme-court/921120/24 "2021-06-18T16:57:56Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> No, you twit,

Modding: This is not acceptable in this forum. Your posting gains nothing from those two words.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upcoming-obamacare-scotus-case-in-a-8-member-supreme-court/921120/25 "2021-06-18T17:00:15Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> > [@Akaj](#):
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> > No, you twit,
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> Modding: This is not acceptable in this forum. Your posting gains nothing from those two words.

The “you” in question isn’t another poster – it’s the Texas AG. If that’s still a violation, I apologize.

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upcoming-obamacare-scotus-case-in-a-8-member-supreme-court/921120/26 "2021-06-18T17:02:09Z")

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They found it constitutional with the penalty and have declined to even look at it without. Whom do you all think _would_ have standing? I doubt if the court would ever hear it again.

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