# Updike and New Iskander, it's a twofer tuesday! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 8, 2005, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097 "2005-11-08T20:42:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Brainiac4](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brainiac4/32/3534_2.png) [@Brainiac4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brainiac4)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/281 "2005-11-21T04:27:31Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > A Jew on a bus is guilty of nothing. An abortionist is guilty of murdering unborn children. Nice moral company YOU keep, if you can’t see the difference. I’d like to take this opportunity to thank you for contributing $14.95 to this community. I’d also like to take this opportunity to tell you that I would happily have paid $14.95 to not have it contaminated by you. If we ask nicely, will you go away? ---
**Author:** ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/282 "2005-11-21T04:29:10Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > You will then fell at home in the places where those things you mention are happening, because by the same rotten mentality those places ALSO do more than just ban abortion: > > [http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGACT770012005?open&of=ENG-398](http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGACT770012005?open&of=ENG-398) > Your mentality is really the one of a troglodyte who is more in tune with honor killings, stoning, and FGM. But I thought we were supposed to respect and honor different cultural practices, not ridicule (or condemn) them. Where did I go wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Fritz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c57346/32.png) [@Fritz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fritz)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/283 "2005-11-21T04:38:29Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > Where did I go wrong? What a juicy Straight Line… ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/284 "2005-11-21T04:49:31Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > But I thought we were supposed to respect and honor different cultural practices, not ridicule (or condemn) them. Where did I go wrong? By ignoring the human rights element as usual (funny that the left is usually paying more attention to items like that). Your troglodyte position only justifies either killing the doctors performing or the women having abortions, it is a moral position that indeed will be at home in locations that stone and perform FGM. Since you hate that America is protecting women against that, I suggest to you to leave at once to the places were you will be proud to show your ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/285 "2005-11-21T04:59:54Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > A Jew on a bus is guilty of nothing. An abortionist is guilty of murdering unborn children. Nice moral company YOU keep, if you can’t see the difference. I can see the difference, but it’s you who refuses to see the similarity! ---
**Author:** ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/286 "2005-11-21T05:00:34Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Since you hate that America is protecting women against that, I suggest to you to leave at once to the places were you will be proud to show your ignorance. It’s politically incorrect, and quite likely racist, for you to insinuate that cultural practices in places like Nigeria are ignorant. What are you, the Great White Savior? We should just try to understand stoning, etc. and Celebrate! our differences. It makes the world go around. Right? ---
**Author:** ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/287 "2005-11-21T05:03:14Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I can see the difference, but it’s you who refuses to see the similarity! Ok, you got me there. What is the similarty between a Jew and an abortionist? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/288 "2005-11-21T05:07:18Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > Ok, you got me there. What is the similarty between a Jew and an abortionist? They’re both the innocent victims of terrorists! :wally similarty is spelled similarity, you missed the I :wally ---
**Author:** ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/289 "2005-11-21T05:14:33Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > They’re both the innocent victims of terrorists! In what way, shape, or form are abortionists “innocent” victims? > [@](#): > > similarty is spelled similarity, you missed the I :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/290 "2005-11-21T05:19:00Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > In what way, shape, or form are abortionists “innocent” victims? > > :dubious: sim·i·lar·i·ty (sĭm’ə-lăr’ĭ-tē) pronunciation n., pl. -ties. 1. The quality or condition of being similar; resemblance. See synonyms at likeness. 2. A corresponding aspect or feature; equivalence: a similarity of writing styles. ---
**Author:** ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/291 "2005-11-21T05:21:26Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > sim·i·lar·i·ty (sĭm’ə-lăr’ĭ-tē) pronunciation > n., pl. -ties. > > 1. The quality or condition of being similar; resemblance. See synonyms at likeness. > 2. A corresponding aspect or feature; equivalence: a similarity of writing styles. So what now, Jews are similiar to abortionists? That’s a rather interesting theory there. Please explain further. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/292 "2005-11-21T05:21:57Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > In what way, shape, or form are abortionists “innocent” victims? The way, shape, and form that involves not having been convicted of a crime. Except in the opinion of a terrorist. **crowmanyclouds** , all due respect, but the copy-editor schtick has a definite shelf-life. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/293 "2005-11-21T05:27:56Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > The way, shape, and form that involves not having been convicted of a crime. > > Except in the opinion of a terrorist. > **crowmanyclouds** , all due respect, but the copy-editor schtick has a definite shelf-life. I’m bored with it myself! ---
**Author:** ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/294 "2005-11-21T05:30:13Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > The way, shape, and form that involves not having been convicted of a crime. Most of the terrorists haven’t been convicted of a crime, either. They have a fortunate tendency to blow themselves up first. It doesn’t mean they deserve any sort of consideration, though. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/295 "2005-11-21T05:40:20Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > So what now, Jews are similiar to abortionists? That’s a rather interesting theory there. Please explain further. abortion (for Aryans) was banned in Nazi Germany. [Cite](http://www.cbctrust.com/history_law_religion.php#5). Happy now? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/296 "2005-11-21T05:46:53Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > It’s politically incorrect, and quite likely racist, for you to insinuate that cultural practices in places like Nigeria are ignorant. > > What are you, the Great White Savior? We should just try to understand stoning, etc. and Celebrate! our differences. It makes the world go around. Right? Your attempts at tap dancing are pathetic. Seeing a troglodyte attempting that is amusing though. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/297 "2005-11-21T06:08:26Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Your attempts at tap dancing are pathetic. Seeing a troglodyte attempting that is amusing though. The whole “I’m going to attempt to use your own rhetoric against you, but, um, I don’t know what your rhetoric actually is” is quite a cute game. I’m glad that **Puppy** is working on proving how stupid he is without me needing to lift a finger. ---
**Author:** ![threeorange](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@threeorange](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threeorange)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/298 "2005-11-21T11:30:35Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > It’s politically incorrect, and quite likely racist, for you to insinuate that cultural practices in places like Nigeria are ignorant. > > What are you, the Great White Savior? We should just try to understand stoning, etc. and Celebrate! our differences. It makes the world go around. Right? So Updike is now calling other people racist? In [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=334275&highlight=gretna), he found it perfectly reasonable to assume that any black people headed across the bridge from New Orleans into Gretna to escape the destruction from Hurricane Katrina must necessarily be going there to loot stores and shoot at firefighters (posts 18, 22, 27, 28, 40, 44, 45). ---
**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/299 "2005-11-21T12:00:58Z")
Out of curiousity, **Updike** , what’s a receptionist working for an abortionist guilty of and why should she have to die? What are rescue workers responding to a bomb going off guilty of? For that matter, what’s a woman going to Planned Parenthood for treatment of a miscarriage or infertility guilty of? The latter may not be killed, but what is she doing to deserve to be called a “baby killer”? For the record, I’ve researched Planned Parenthood’s prices for basic gynecological care. They are a good bargain for people without insurance. CJ I know I should stay out of this trainwreck, but I’m appalled by the possibility that someone might think that a doctor’s \*receptionist \* should deserve to die! [Snarky remark omitted] ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2005, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/300 "2005-11-21T18:52:28Z")
> [@Siege](#): > > I know I should stay out of this trainwreck Aww, this isn’t a trainwreck. This is a finely tuned Pitting! 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097.md?page=16)