# Updike and New Iskander, it's a twofer tuesday! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 8, 2005, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097 "2005-11-08T20:42:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2005, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/81 "2005-11-10T20:09:32Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > You will notice that nowhere in that list are your views on Iraq or President Bush mentioned. You will further note that your conduct in this thread consists mainly of whinging, attempted martyrdom, and red herrings of various forms. Moreover, you will note that you have not addressed a single point I raised in the OP. Are those predictions, or requests couched in somewhat stuffy verbiage? 'Cause if they’re predictions, I have my doubts as to their accuracy. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2005, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/82 "2005-11-10T20:15:53Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Are those predictions, or requests couched in somewhat stuffy verbiage? I don’t grok… have I been whooshed? I was attempting to describe his conduct in the thread so far. ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbce88/32.png) [@flight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2005, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/83 "2005-11-10T22:09:47Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > I don’t grok… have I been whooshed? > I was attempting to describe his conduct in the thread so far. > [@FinnAgain](#): > > You will further note… No he won’t. Take a lesson, **Updike** , that is how you handle a woosh. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2005, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/84 "2005-11-10T22:17:02Z")
> [@flight](#): > > Take a lesson, **Updike** , that is how you handle a woosh. **Updike** takes umbrage, not lessons. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2005, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/85 "2005-11-10T23:27:53Z")
> [@flight](#): > > No he won’t. Well he might, which is to say that it’s possible that, well, I mean, it could happen and… Okay, I was wrong. ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/86 "2005-11-11T01:16:46Z")
> [@jrfranchi](#): > > **FinnAgain** , I don’t want to be a wet blanket, but \*\*Isky \*\* definitely shows signs of intelligence. You got to give him his due. **Isky** has taken your point to heart and [acted upon it.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6783829&postcount=201) ---
**Author:** ![Aholibah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Aholibah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aholibah)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/87 "2005-11-11T01:29:23Z")
I’d just like to say (and I hope this doesn’t count as a ‘lawnchair’ post) that this Pit thread is a thing of beauty. Kudos to all participants (including the Pittees, without whom this would not have been possible), but especially to **FinnAgain**. When I want to pit somebody (may the day never come), I hope I remember to take this thread as my inspiration. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/88 "2005-11-11T02:20:39Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Be fair, **Finn**. He might just be too stupid to understand the subtleties of the written word. No “might” about it. We’ve already proven he’s too dumb to understand even the most obvious of sarcasm, courtesy of the esteemed **Tomndebb**. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/89 "2005-11-11T03:34:55Z")
> [@Aholibah](#): > > When I want to pit somebody (may the day never come), I hope I remember to take this thread as my inspiration. Awwww shucks. ~shuffles feet~ ---
**Author:** ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/90 "2005-11-11T04:10:10Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > You did see where I just put the word prove in soft quotes, yes? Which you didn’t do until **King of Soup** pointed it out you. > [@FinnAgain](#): > > But again I can see how it came off like some highschool bullshit Which is precisely why I don’t take you seriously. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/91 "2005-11-11T04:26:05Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > Which you didn’t do until **King of Soup** pointed it out you. Ya don’t say? Is that why I thanked him for pointing out how it sounded and offered clarification? Do you come up with these observations yourself, or is there an entire team of monkeys who assist you? After standing on ceremony about people’s views and proof, don’t you think it’s just a little, oh, I don’t know, intellectually dishonest and janus faced to go and make yet another Red Herring post and conclude it with an Ad Hominem fallacy? Oh, and, by the way … you going to address [what you were Pitted for](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6782365&postcount=80), you whinging coward? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/92 "2005-11-11T04:56:44Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > Which is precisely why I don’t take you seriously. Now that’s irony for you. ---
**Author:** ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/93 "2005-11-11T05:41:34Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Do you come up with these observations yourself, or is there an entire team of monkeys who assist you? Are you still in highschool, then? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/94 "2005-11-11T06:12:51Z")
So, you’re not going to address [what you were pitted for](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6782365&postcount=80), you whinging coward? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/95 "2005-11-11T06:17:48Z")
> [@rayh](#): > > **Isky** has taken your point to heart and [acted upon it.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6783829&postcount=201) By the way, I think it is important not to lose sight of the fact that **Isky** is still polluting the Dope with his idiocy. Simply because **Uppy** is doing his damnedest to win this year’s Twit Olympics doesn’t mean that we should ignore the other competitors. So, thank you for pointing that out **Rayh**. ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/96 "2005-11-11T08:07:55Z")
Wow, just wow. Wow! I am awed by the blinding ignorance of our co-nominees for Anti-Doper of the year. Updike definitely takes the award this time around. Mainly because of it’s tendency to climb right on the cross at the first sign of trouble. I do want to make one correction to a statement made by Updike: About 50% of the US _used to_ support President Bush. Now it’s closer to 35%, with Arnold Schwarzenegger and several other prominent politicans taking severe blows in the election a few days ago. Good luck with your ideology, pal. It’ll get you really far. Sam ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/97 "2005-11-11T09:04:03Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > Are you still in highschool, then? I think you’re overpaying those monkeys. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/98 "2005-11-11T10:50:28Z")
> [@Scott Plaid](#): > > For the record, [here](http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=1891343&nav=EQlpNN9R) is the same cite I used for people dying of “excess light” as in the original thread. I fail to see how a cite about a soldier suffering from severe beatings by his fellows has any relevance to the mind-numbig stupidity of the 2 igloo room temp IQ cretins pitted here. Can I add you to my, ‘Don’t mind them, they’re ‘Special’ List too?’ ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/99 "2005-11-11T12:05:23Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > Are you still in highschool, then? Once _you_ get to high school, you’ll learn that it’s actually two words. Something to look forward to. ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097/100 "2005-11-11T12:13:14Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > So, you’re not going to address [what you were pitted for](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6782365&postcount=80), you whinging coward? I must disagree with you on this one. I don’t think **Updike** is a coward. Whining, whinging, or otherwise. I think you nailed it from the beginning: He really is too thick to understand what he is being pitted for. He still thinks this is a high school put-down contest. The subtleties of the actual, you know, _issues_ are just beyond his grasp. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/updike-and-new-iskander-its-a-twofer-tuesday/330097.md?page=6)