# Upgrade to Win10...try it...revert to Win7 **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 8, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upgrade-to-win10-try-it-revert-to-win7/733929 "2015-10-08T14:58:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chikni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@Chikni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chikni)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upgrade-to-win10-try-it-revert-to-win7/733929/21 "2015-10-09T07:06:34Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > \ > > That reminds me of the other thing about Windows 10 that’s gone. I used to be able to insert the SD card from my camera in the little slot on the side of my laptop and transfer photos easily to my computer. No more. Now I have to use a separate card reader that I plug into a USB port. Why oh why would they remove this feature? Oh, wait, I know: because they want everyone to store everything in “The Cloud.” > > Google this: and you will get over 330,000 hits. :mad: I have Windows 10, and only two days ago inserted the SD card from my camera into the little slot on the side of my laptop and transferred photos easily to my computer. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upgrade-to-win10-try-it-revert-to-win7/733929/22 "2015-10-09T08:24:27Z")
Windows 10 won’t run games like Civilization 4 from the disc (it claims you are using a pirated copy.) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upgrade-to-win10-try-it-revert-to-win7/733929/23 "2015-10-09T11:36:53Z")
> [@Chikni](#): > > I have Windows 10, and only two days ago inserted the SD card from my camera into the little slot on the side of my laptop and transferred photos easily to my computer. As with my other complaint, this doesn’t seem to be a problem for everyone, but it is for lots of people. 😕 When I insert my SD card, it never appears on the screen. When I insert the card in my old card reader and connect to usb port, it pops up instantly. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upgrade-to-win10-try-it-revert-to-win7/733929/24 "2015-10-09T15:22:52Z")
I tried Win 10. Other than not being able to access my most used programs from the Start menu, it worked fine for awhile. Then it froze, presumably when it brought up the screen saver, and the three-finger salute didn’t work so I tried cycling the power. Froze immediately after logging in and the three finger-salute didn’t work so I tried cycling the power. Froze immediately after logging in and the three-finger salute didn’t work… Left it completely powered down for at least six hours then tried again. Worked fine for awhile then it froze, presumably when it brought up the screen saver, and the three-finger salute didn’t work… Left it completely powered down for at least six hours then rolled back to Win 7. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upgrade-to-win10-try-it-revert-to-win7/733929/25 "2015-10-09T15:24:06Z")
Hold. The. Phone. I found the [instructions](http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3469-recent-items-frequent-places-turn-off.html)for turning on “Recent files” in the Explorer. Scroll down to where it says “option one.” Good grief. I’ve been searching all over for this option, i.e., to show me recently opened (not “frequent”) DOCUMENTS (files) in the Explorer. I’m going to go lie down with a cool compress over my eyes… ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upgrade-to-win10-try-it-revert-to-win7/733929/26 "2015-10-09T15:57:05Z")
More & more, it sounds like Microsoft doubled-down on Stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upgrade-to-win10-try-it-revert-to-win7/733929/27 "2015-10-09T16:15:39Z")
Part of the problem here is that Win 10 is almost 99% upgrade installs, and the upgrades will carry a number of user settings forward. So the variations in what we’re seeing under the general idea of “recent files” listings is because the systems already varied under Win or 8. Some time to find and tune minor settings should be expected. Not defending MS, just pointing out that for all their mighty magnificence, they can’t read minds. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upgrade-to-win10-try-it-revert-to-win7/733929/28 "2015-10-09T16:26:35Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > Part of the problem here is that Win 10 is almost 99% upgrade installs, and the upgrades will carry a number of user settings forward. So the variations in what we’re seeing under the general idea of “recent files” listings is because the systems already varied under Win or 8. Some time to find and tune minor settings should be expected. > > Not defending MS, just pointing out that for all their mighty magnificence, they can’t read minds. You’re right, and I’m okay with that. Frankly, I’m amazed when anything works the way _it 'posed to_. We take our computers and devices so for granted that we forget how intricate they are. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upgrade-to-win10-try-it-revert-to-win7/733929/29 "2015-10-10T00:55:17Z")
Now that I have activated “Recent Places,” and used it numerous times this afternoon in the course of designing a brochure, I will stick with Windows 10. As I said, I made it look like Windows 7, and that one function was potential deal-breaker for me. The fact that I can’t read my SD card by sticking it in the slot… _\_ I guess I can live with that. I’ll just keep my card reader in my laptop bag. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upgrade-to-win10-try-it-revert-to-win7/733929/30 "2015-10-11T11:34:48Z")
Not being able to read your SD card just means that there’s a driver problem for your SD card reader. You may need to go to your computer manufacturer’s website and see if they have a driver. Anyways, my biggest problem with Windows 10 remains the inability to get File Sharing to work between it and my Linux box. I even used some registry tweaks that were supposed to make it work exactly like in Windows 7, but still no luck. But that’s as likely to be a problem with Linux than Windows 10, and I can, if I need to, install an FTP server in Windows instead. So that’s not enough to revert. One thing that almost made me want to revert was trying to reinstall the old Windows 7 Intel G41 driver. I could not get it to let me do it. The new driver provided by Microsoft was shit in Windows 8, and that’s the same one. Turns out, though, if I went back one more version I could get it to work, after tweaking the driver file and disabling driver signature checking. I’m still waiting on the titlebar color fix that is supposedly in testing right now, but used a tweak to get around it temporarily. Boot time is a bit slower, but not horribly so (90 sec instead of 72 sec), and I’m considering a fresh install to see if that fixes it. (wish I had UEFI so I could enable fastboot.) And I still don’t get why the will let the search menu get swapped out of memory. It should be just as quick as the start menu. Same with the onscreen keyboard. Still, not enough to go back. And I love having sound and 3D video in Remote Desktop. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upgrade-to-win10-try-it-revert-to-win7/733929/31 "2015-10-11T13:06:44Z")
**BigT** , you’re a more advanced user than I am. I didn’t even comprehend a lot of your post. 😉 I’ll look into the driver thing (it always worked in this computer before). What is “remote desktop”? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upgrade-to-win10-try-it-revert-to-win7/733929/32 "2015-10-13T04:46:58Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > **BigT** , you’re a more advanced user than I am. I didn’t even comprehend a lot of your post. 😉 I’ll look into the driver thing (it always worked in this computer before). What is “remote desktop”? Logging into the computer from another computer. It’s done more in business environments. Yeah, only the first paragraph was about helping you. Sorry if I was confusing. I’m just wondering if the driver got messed up during the upgrade, and if reinstalling it or upgrading might help. It’s basically just the old-fashioned cure of uninstalling and reinstalling things to see if it will fix your problem. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upgrade-to-win10-try-it-revert-to-win7/733929/33 "2015-10-13T13:30:22Z")
No, no…I don’t mind-- digress away. 🙂 I will look into the driver thing. I’m still interested in why people might keep/dump Windows 10. In all the reading I’ve been doing, I haven’t come across any _love_ for it, mostly relief that it’s pretty much the same as Win7 and **not** Win8 (except for the big _tiles_). I haven’t heard anyone sing its praises on its own merits, as in, “Oh, wow, Win10 is so great! We’ve been waiting for this! Love it!” More like, “Thank god they didn’t screw it up too much.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upgrade-to-win10-try-it-revert-to-win7/733929.md?page=1)