# Urbanredneck is a homophobic bigot **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 11, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775 "2015-05-11T14:43:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![piepiepie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47774/32.png) [@piepiepie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/piepiepie)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/221 "2015-05-14T12:14:00Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Are you genuinely unclear about the standard I was trying to describe, or are you just nitpicking for the fuck of it? Not to answer for them, but I don’t think being bi-romantic is a necessary trait for being bisexual. I get what you mean, but it just seems like one of those things some people will call you out on for not being truly bi. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/222 "2015-05-14T12:46:07Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > Exactly. He didn’t choose to be straight, he just is. I believe it was his choice, and it could’ve easily gone another way. Behind the third door there was a goat. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/223 "2015-05-14T12:50:07Z")
Ah, that’s where it went… they were wondering, up in MPSIMS. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/224 "2015-05-14T13:20:24Z")
> [@CalBak](#): > > Does anybody else remember when this thread was about Urbanredneck? Not much to say about Urban redneck that wasn’t included in the title. Even when I read the title I thought ‘is this even nessesary who doesn’t already know that’ ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/225 "2015-05-14T13:53:19Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > …Personally I suspect that virtually all heterosexuality is of the nature that I described, and that the vast majority of straight people are repressed bisexuals, though mostly at the lower end of the Kinsey Scale. (Homosexuals, by contrast, are going in the face of societal influence, and the above would not apply much, if at all.) So, is your name more than just a Wodehouse tribute? Did you actually attend one of those British “Public” schools of which we have heard so much? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/226 "2015-05-14T13:57:23Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I believe it was his choice, and it could’ve easily gone another way. Behind the third door there was a goat. That goat is a damned slut! ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/227 "2015-05-14T14:08:45Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > That goat is a damned slut! I heard she was under the wether! ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/228 "2015-05-14T14:40:47Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > Not much to say about Urban redneck that wasn’t included in the title. Even when I read the title I thought ‘is this even nessesary who doesn’t already know that’ Right here. I’ve never even noticed that douchebag before, as I’m sort of an on again/off again reader/poster here. But I just had the pleasure of interacting with him in the Mothers’ Day thread and I wholeheartedly endorse this pitting. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/229 "2015-05-14T15:48:56Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > … If a guy fantasizes exclusively about women, dates women exclusively, has romantic feelings that are exclusively about women, but is willing to let a guy he met in a bar suck his dick while he fantasizes about Megan Fox, I don’t think that guy is “bisexual” in any meaningful way. I prefer bisexual be reserved for people who are attracted to both genders in a roughly equal proportion, and is willing to entertain the idea of long term, romantic relationships with either gender. I’m with **Peremensoe** here – the 1st sentence and then the 2nd part of the 2nd sentence exclude a whole shit-ton of middle ground. In other words, the 1st part of the 2nd sentences seems valid to me, but then you tacked on a rider that involves a much higher standard for one group than the other. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/230 "2015-05-14T15:56:18Z")
> [@mascaroni](#): > > I’m getting rather sick of all the haggisphobia on this board. Yah well haggis is gross and should not be allowed in polite company. You haggis lovers! Trying to force everyone to have haggis! ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/231 "2015-05-14T16:13:09Z")
It’s the haggis pride parades that sicken me. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/232 "2015-05-14T16:22:39Z")
> [@mascaroni](#): > > I’m getting rather sick of all the haggisphobia on this board. Hey, I got nuthin’ 'gainst haggises. But if you think we’re gonna stay quiet when they move in next door and start lowering the property values… ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/233 "2015-05-14T16:45:26Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > I’m with **Peremensoe** here – the 1st sentence and then the 2nd part of the 2nd sentence exclude a whole shit-ton of middle ground. In other words, the 1st part of the 2nd sentences seems valid to me, but then you tacked on a rider that involves a much higher standard for one group than the other. The first sentence is supposed to exclude a shit ton of middle ground. That’s the point of the post: there’s a lot of behavior that get lumped in with “bisexual” that I don’t think should be there - it weakens “bisexual” as an independent identity, relegating it to an “other” status for people who don’t pass some sort of purity test for “straight” or “gay.” As for “higher standards,” :rolleyes: If it makes you feel better, change it to “is willing to entertain the idea of long term, romantic relationships with either gender _equally_.” ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/234 "2015-05-14T16:54:48Z")
I like haggis. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/235 "2015-05-14T17:03:47Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > The first sentence is supposed to exclude a shit ton of middle ground. That’s the point of the post: there’s a lot of behavior that get lumped in with “bisexual” that I don’t think should be there - it weakens “bisexual” as an independent identity, relegating it to an “other” status for people who don’t pass some sort of purity test for “straight” or “gay.” ISTM that you’re insisting on your own definition of “bisexual” because of some personal preference. From [Wiki](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisexuality): > [@](#): > > A bisexual identity does not necessarily equate to equal sexual attraction to both sexes; commonly, people who have a distinct but not exclusive sexual preference for one sex over the other also identify themselves as bisexual. And [(quoting the American Psychological Association)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterosexual%E2%80%93homosexual_continuum): > [@](#): > > Sexual orientation exists along a continuum that ranges from exclusive heterosexuality to exclusive homosexuality and includes various forms of bisexuality. I don’t intend to dispute how the term “bisexual” should or shouldn’t be used, but am just noting that my usage above was in line with the usage in these quotes (and is what was relevant in the context of the point I was making). ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/236 "2015-05-14T17:05:42Z")
Og forbid I have to serve haggis in my restaurant – the one I would buy with an assurance that I would never have to serve haggis. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/237 "2015-05-14T17:22:41Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Og forbid I have to serve haggis in my restaurant – the one I would buy with an assurance that I would never have to serve haggis. Perhaps you can push for an amendment to establish a permanent defense of the traditional haggis-free lifestyle. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/238 "2015-05-14T17:23:33Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Og forbid I have to serve haggis in my restaurant – the one I would buy with an assurance that I would never have to serve haggis. Even if it were a heterosexual haggis? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/239 "2015-05-14T17:23:48Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > ISTM that you’re insisting on your own definition of “bisexual” because of some personal preference. Well, yeah: > [@me](#): > > I prefer bisexual be reserved for people who are… ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775/240 "2015-05-14T17:33:07Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Og forbid I have to serve haggis in my restaurant – the one I would buy with an assurance that I would never have to serve haggis. What if I wanted haggis at my wedding? Would you be “too busy” to cater it? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-is-a-homophobic-bigot/719775.md?page=13)