# Urbanredneck, what the FUCK were you THINKING??? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 3, 2019, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121 "2019-01-03T00:17:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121/101 "2019-01-11T12:09:11Z")
> [@JB99](#): > > I’m new to this board, but I’m starting to get discouraged by the fact that there seem to be like five or six chronic trolls who detract from any serious conversation. I’m not new and it discourages me too. I participate and read a lot less than I used to. I maintain a healthy ignore list but that doesn’t prevent the usual suspects from derailing threads. We have lost many of our good friends on this boards in the last few years because there always seems to be a handful of hardcore sexists, racists, and hardcore trolls that constantly bring things down. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121/102 "2019-01-11T15:05:50Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I’m not new and it discourages me too. I participate and read a lot less than I used to. I maintain a healthy ignore list but that doesn’t prevent the usual suspects from derailing threads. > > We have lost many of our good friends on this boards in the last few years because there always seems to be a handful of hardcore sexists, racists, and hardcore trolls that constantly bring things down. I typically stop reading or posting (I mainly read and don’t post too much) once a thread gets hijacked by one of the usual suspects. Helps keep the BP down. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121/103 "2019-01-12T00:56:33Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > I can’t make him come in here and explain himself. That’s not within my power. I just wanted to say that correlating mental health and hormones is not inherently stupid or misogynistic. Hormones influence mental health, they influence the absorption of medications. Women can be harmed by not asking these questions. No, you can’t make him defend himself. But you can choose to not come up with a defense for him that he himself has not given. My argument is fairly simple: when someone does something apparently wrong, we should not come up with an explanation that they themselves have not given. We should not be giving them an excuse they can use to get out of something. If they really have a good reason for what they did, then they will be able to tell you without needing anyone else to help them figure out what that good reason is. We can be sure of a more honest answer if we wait, rather than make excuses for them. And I say this as someone with a huge tendency to want to come in and defend people. I’ve had to make a conscious effort not to come up with excuses for them. When I don’t, I’ve accidentally defended some garbage people and helped them get away with being garbage. (Hell, I defended Kanye West at one point.) I reject the idea that defending people online is wrong. But I do try to be more careful about it. I don’t make up excuses for people, and I think this is a good rule of thumb for everyone who chooses to defend people online. ---
**Author:** ![JB99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JB99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JB99)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121/104 "2019-01-12T01:12:26Z")
> [@UrbanRedNeck](#): > > Why are liberals and democrats so into censorship? > > It was democrats who got the song “Baby It’s Cold Outside” banned. > > It was democrats who drove that christian baker out of business for refusing to make a cake for a gay wedding. What the epic fuck? Just gibberish and lies. > [@UrbanRedNeck](#): > > Liberals and democrats want women and minorities in position of power. PROVIDED they are not conservative. Well, no shit, moron! ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121/105 "2019-01-12T04:16:59Z")
Oh man, the mods closed the vaccine and autism thread. I thought there was a lot of chemistry between Dopers happening in that thread. \*yeah, just wanted to get that last joke in ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121/106 "2019-01-12T05:00:04Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > \*yeah, just wanted to get that last joke in Well you’re not going to get any reaction from me. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121/107 "2019-01-12T05:04:02Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Well you’re not going to get any reaction from me. That’s because you’re not part of a solution. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121/108 "2019-01-12T05:09:25Z")
> [@andros](#): > > That’s because you’re not part of a solution. What do you base that on? ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121/109 "2019-01-12T05:12:14Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > What do you base that on? Please don’t compound the issue. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121/110 "2019-01-12T05:22:46Z")
> [@Covfefe](#): > > Please don’t compound the issue. That’s a pretty acidic answer. And here I thought we were bonding. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121/111 "2019-01-12T06:11:24Z")
The chemistry here is terrible. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121/112 "2019-01-12T06:28:30Z")
Chem students do it on the table periodically. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121/113 "2019-01-12T06:37:51Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > The chemistry here is terrible. We’ve already done that one. Or were you planning on a periodic return to the same jokes? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121/114 "2019-01-12T06:42:32Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > We’ve already done that one. Or were you planning on a periodic return to the same jokes? It is pretty ionic, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121/115 "2019-01-12T16:31:52Z")
I didn’t want to react to these terrible puns. But to clear things up: this was heating up rapidly, so they could no longer just keep an ion it. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121/116 "2019-01-12T18:18:04Z")
Giving this more thought, I think people like Will Farnaby and UrbanRedneck are part of the right wing propaganda machine, which heavily relies on trolls to swamp the public discourse with nonsense. They spout ridiculous nonsense and lies and never allow themselves to be dragged into a genuine conversation. We ought to seriously consider banning posters like this as a matter of routine, because they are making our world a worse place to live in and by giving them any platform we are just facilitating their machinations. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121/117 "2019-01-12T18:48:50Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Giving this more thought, I think people like Will Farnaby and UrbanRedneck are part of the right wing propaganda machine, which heavily relies on trolls to swamp the public discourse with nonsense. > > They spout ridiculous nonsense and lies and never allow themselves to be dragged into a genuine conversation. We ought to seriously consider banning posters like this as a matter of routine, because they are making our world a worse place to live in and by giving them any platform we are just facilitating their machinations. I think I agree. Contrast Huey Freeman. Whatever the guy’s issues, he _will_ engage; and the controversy over his behavior has led to productive debate on substantive issues. If somebody _won’t engage in debate_ when their views are challenged, I think our tolerance for bigoted provocation & trollery should be much stricter. UrbanBlight is firmly in this camp of dropping drive-by turds and disappearing. Will Farnaby - I don’t know, I don’t put him in the same category as Urban. He does seems to be willing to engage, but his views are always loaded with unstated underlying principles that he seems to take for granted as axiomatic natural laws, but most sane human beings think are preposterous nonsense. With that underlying disconnect, you pretty much can’t have any kind of coherent higher-level conversation with the guy. And it you step back to try to discuss those underlying principles, the entire thread just gets hijacked and disappears down the rabbit hole of his crazy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/urbanredneck-what-the-fuck-were-you-thinking/827121.md?page=5)