# US Actions- Anti-moslem is OK, anti-semitism is not?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-actions-anti-moslem-is-ok-anti-semitism-is-not/106807>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 2, 2002, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-actions-anti-moslem-is-ok-anti-semitism-is-not/106807 "2002-05-02T06:32:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Monster104](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Monster104](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monster104)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2002, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-actions-anti-moslem-is-ok-anti-semitism-is-not/106807/41 "2002-05-04T07:56:00Z")

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**Captain Amazing** : I was under the impression throughout high school that Muslim is the singular usage, while Moslem is plural…

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2002, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-actions-anti-moslem-is-ok-anti-semitism-is-not/106807/42 "2002-05-05T06:26:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Demosthenesian \*  
> Nobody is going to say “all jews, and the jewish religion, makes people hate modernity/America/technology/white people/whatever”. These claims would immediately be labelled anti-semitic and utterly ludicrous. The same is not true of Muslims and Islam.

Poppycock. There are moderate and liberal Muslems, just as there are moderate/liberal/conservative Jews and Christians and what-have-you. Look at Turkey for an example of an Islamic government that doesn’t use a Taliban-style philosophy of “hating modernity/America/technology/white people/whatever”.

The only people who believe Islam (as a whole) is opposed to modernization and Western society are ignorant morons who open their mouths without engaging their brains.

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> After all, it wasn’t the Israelis that Ann Coulter was demanding the forcible conversion of.

See?

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**Author:** ![Jerevan\_Somerville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@Jerevan\_Somerville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jerevan_Somerville)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2002, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-actions-anti-moslem-is-ok-anti-semitism-is-not/106807/43 "2002-05-05T14:12:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by LokiTheDog \*  
> And wasn’t the OP about Muslims? Since when did the terms ‘Arab-Americans’ and ‘Muslims’ become synonymous?

_Exactement_. And for that matter, not all Arabs are Muslims, and not all Muslims are Arabs. And as **rjung** points out, there is just as much diversity of economic, political and social opinion in predominantly Muslim countries as there is in predominantly Jewish and Christian countries.

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**Author:** ![Pjen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Pjen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pjen)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2002, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-actions-anti-moslem-is-ok-anti-semitism-is-not/106807/44 "2002-05-05T15:15:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jerevan Somerville \*  
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> _Exactement_. And for that matter, not all Arabs are Muslims, and not all Muslims are Arabs. \*\*

The OP did not mention Arab-Americans, only Moslems.

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**Author:** ![alibey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@alibey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alibey)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2002, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-actions-anti-moslem-is-ok-anti-semitism-is-not/106807/45 "2002-05-05T16:42:42Z")

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Pjen has stated a lot of problems but no solutions.

Do you have any?

Tell us how you would bring about peace in the world, and it had better not be along the lines of everyone must follow (your favorite deity here with this set of rules)😃 ;j

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**Author:** ![Jerevan\_Somerville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@Jerevan\_Somerville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jerevan_Somerville)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2002, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-actions-anti-moslem-is-ok-anti-semitism-is-not/106807/46 "2002-05-06T16:06:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Pjen \*  
> The OP did not mention Arab-Americans, only Moslems.]

True, your OP mentioned only Muslims, not Arab-Americans, but the cites you provide to back up your assertions in the OP came from the _American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee_ (ADC) and refer to alleged acts of discrimination against Arab-Americans and Arabs living in the United States. These groups are not synonymous with Muslim-Americans and Muslims living in the United States.

So in retrospect it isn’t clear from the OP which group, Arabs or Muslims, you wanted to discuss…

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**Author:** ![LokiTheDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6f9a4e/32.png) [@LokiTheDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LokiTheDog)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2002, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-actions-anti-moslem-is-ok-anti-semitism-is-not/106807/47 "2002-05-09T11:22:36Z")

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Thank you, **Jerevan Somerville** , for clarifying my point.

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