US-Americans, I Pit you!

Keep in mind that @Magiver is also quite the liar. What he has attributed to Biden here is a lie, and probably his “facebook” friend is also a lie as well.

He is a white racist who hates the majority of the country. He isn’t friends with a latina from Texas, he wants her deported, or worse, and is willing to lie and to spew his hatefullness in order to have that happen.

I would not take the word of a racist hateful liar as a reason to throw others under the bus.

Just to be clear, I wasn’t actually seriously Pitting @Pardel-Lux for how UKers and Poles and Hungarians voted. I was attempting, perhaps poorly, to point out how ridiculous the premise is. I don’t blame Pardel-Lux for how other people voted, nor do I think how Europeans voted in their elections excuse how Americans voted in ours. But it’s also patently ridiculous to blame me for somehow failing to magically control the votes of 70 or so million other people.

Yeah, they sided with the virus over humanity because they thought it would hurt the liberals.

And it does, as it impacted the liberal areas of the country pretty hard, as those are the areas where people live closer together, and disease is easier to transmit, but it also doubly harms the liberals because the liberals care even when it is the conservative who dies from a preventable pandemic.

They literally killed themselves in an attempt to pwn the libs. How can we compete with that sort of hatred?

That is clear, OK. But if today is not the day to rant about the world in general and US-Americans in particular, pray tell: when would then be the day?
And concerning the UK, I insulted Boris Johnson as heiniously as I could, and Theresa May before that (and Margaret Thatcher too, for good measure). Didn’t do much good, I know, but I felt better after the deed then too. So yes, I tried. If you have a better idea, I am ready to listen.

I’m ready to listen as well. You haven’t actually offered any ideas, just lambasted me for failing to control the votes of my fellow citizens. If you have a better idea for what to do about populism and ethno-nationalism, in the U.S. or elsewhere, please tell us.

The problem with democracy is that you sometimes end up with someone like trump.

The problem with any other system is that you always end up with someone like trump.

Maybe change that word slightly to one a tad more accurate

Kakkastocracy – Kakka = shit

Its not my EU - I despise the corrupt entire thing, a Francocentric unaccountable-ocracy.

The very first time we actually get to choose if we want to have Euro overlords, we vote out - we were taken into the EU without any public voice.

As for other EU nations voting for right-wing parties - I wonder how they will cope when the money tit they have been sucking on dries up - becuase as far as the EU is concerned that is all the UK ever was.

Discourse doesn’t like pithy tokens of agreement, so I’ll lengthily preface this:

Well said.

They didn’t outsmart us; the electoral college is rigged in their favor. Biden is already well ahead in popular votes, but that doesn’t matter. Not every vote counts the same.

Get rid of the EC? Sure, if we could get the small right wing states to help ratify the Constitutional amendment. But they won’t, because they enjoy the disproportionate power the EC and the Senate give them. Constitutional amendments are ratified state by state, not by national popular vote. Kansas and Wyoming would carry twice the weight of California.

So, if Trump does win, just be glad it’s not you who has to live here.

I wonder if we could do some sort of exchange system.

You hate living in Europe, and I’m not much liking what the US is turning into.

Rather than destroy both countries, maybe we could have those who want to live in a civilized country trade with those who want to live in an authoritarian failed state. They wouldn’t have to support you anymore, and I wouldn’t have to support people like you anymore.

You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.

Good people in the US have tried to stop this.

There are, off of the top of my head -

  • Flat earthers
  • People that believe school shootings are a hoax, and are ‘crises’ actors
  • People that don’t believe we went to the moon
  • People that refuse science on all levels
  • And people that believe Donald J Trump is a good and honorable person

What shall we do when they stick their fingers in their ears and say ‘Fake News’? They refuse education, and that’s one of the reasons Hillary Clinton lost. She dared suggest new and different jobs because the ones they have are going to go away. But they get mad because buggy whips are no longer in demand.

Shall we get into gun battles? That could actually happen. It’s happened before.

Hey, this is my rant! You want to rant against the EU, take this and this and do it somewhere else.

Well, why didn’t you convince the moderators to let you control what people post in your thread? You were too lazy and you failed to change their minds. It’s your fault that people have hijacked your thread and you should be pitted because of it.

It looks like Biden will eek out a narrow victory right now, and got a fairly big majority of the popular vote. That’s a win, not a huge landslide like we hoped but enough to undo a chunk of the damage done over the last 4 years. If that’s not enough for you, sorry, too bad. You can’t control other people like you seem to think that you can.

And since we’re in the Pit, fuck you. :slight_smile:

If we try to point out where they are wrong, they get pissed and withdrawal. They don’t want to know the truth. They want to live in their fantasy bubble, and take it as a personal assault to try to burst it.

It’s the Tower of Babel all over again.

Will they ever stop calling us US-Americans? I mean, when Ukraine and Congo ask that we drop the article from the names of those countries, we do it. Media style guides are changed in a flash to comply. We denote other countries and their citizens as they wish us to. Yet they have as problem with the demonym American.

Yes - as observed in the main follow-along thread, this forces the realization that the US is a shithole nation.

Perhaps the problem is that too many people previously had an overly rosy idea of what they thought America was and stood for. 2 elections in a row make it hard to deny that near half of our population are xenophobic, selfish, ignorant…- and happy to be governed by a clown.

So, tell me again about those vaunted American ideals that the rest of the world is supposed to be so happy to accept?

I’ve spent a fair amount of time in Central and South America. They’re quick to point out that they are also Americans.

And Mexicans and Canadians are also North Americans.

So there’s that.

The EC is rigged against Democrats? Then how come we’ve had Democrat presidents, including several two-termers?

What article? An article is “a”, “an” or “the”.

This is one of the dumbest complaints I think I’ve ever seen. It literally is our name. Who is “They”, anyway? The OP? I would guess that they used that phrasing to distinguish the USA from the rest of the countries in America, the continent.

Are you a part of the USA, or not?