I’ll put my coherence up against Trump’s anytime.
You’re not addressing the actual substance of that post, which was glaring Republican double standards.
Finding English-language sources hasn’t been easy, but check out this, this, thisand this, all from before Soleimani’s death.
I agree that America killing him in Iraq was a first-rate political faux pas. From the point of view of international law, it would have been much better if *Israel *had killed him in Syria - Israel is at war with Syria and he was in command of armed forces allied with Syria operating on Syrian soil. That’s pretty cut and dry (Israel is also technically still at war with Iraq too, BTW). Of course, if Israel had killed Soleimani I’d probably be positing from a bomb shelter right now.
Oh, well as long as some undefined thing can be prevented (possibly) in the future, then murder away.
Hey, you know how to prevent EVERYTHING ? Just kill everyone !
Ah, but he didn’t parachute them on minibikes within half an hour. So by your own standards, peepee poopoo he is a bad president.
Interesting read on NBC’s website. In June, Mr. Trump set a bright red line of his own: the death of an American. That undermines the “imminent attacks” justification. Unlike Mr. Obama and Syria, this bright red line was not broadcast across public channels, and I suspect it was not even communicated to Iran along private channels.
I am left wondering,
“Of course, the whole point of a doomsday machine is lost… if you keep it a secret! Why didn’t you tell the world, eh?”
~Dr. Strangelove
Lee, C. & Kube, C. (2020, Jan 13). “Trump authorized Soleimani’s killing seven months ago.” NBC News. Retrieved January 13, 2020 from https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-authorized-soleimani-s-killing-7-months-ago-conditions-n1113271
~Max
First they came for the coordinators of international webs of militants and I said nothing for I wasn’t a coordinator of an international web of militants…
Drama and trauma. What prevents America from spreading citizens anywhere it likes, and warning that any harm comes to them, its war? Our enemies will see this as a provocation, or at the very least, the installation of another tripwire for death and horror. (Does it make any difference if the American is a soldier?)
Iran controls many sub-groups of terrorists and “militia”. If Tehran were to order them to restrict themselves by ensuring no injury to American citizens, would they be obeyed? Unanimously? And if someone does not obey, who are we going to blame? If Iran had made every effort to obey, but failed…would we believe them? Or is that one of those questions that get asked later.
If a sane person were doing this, I might think he was bluffing. Alas.
How much did that cost him?
How much did that cost him?
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/state-department-officials-embassy-security-imminent-threats
State Dept. Officials ‘Blindsided’ By Trump’s ‘Imminent’ Threats Claim
Imminent threat? Didn’t bother to advise the State Dept people sitting in the alleged target.
Actually he had Apache helicopters in the area. And instead of delivering millions in cash in the dead of night to appease Iranian warlords he took out their military leader.
the end result of this are protest by Iranians against the same leadership under threat of live ammunition.
CNN reports many protestors have been arrested.
Iran’s president calls for a special court to investigate crash and for all those responsible to be punished’:
Compare and contrast to the US Navy which awarded special commendation medals for “meritorious service” to two of the top officers who were serving on the USS Vincennes at the time the cruiser shot down a civilian Iranian airliner in Iranian airspace killing all 290 people aboard:
There are no good guys - and no bad guys, just interests and advantages.
Is that something that countries really need to be told? Don’t kill Americans?
On the other hand, the BBC is reporting that the Iranian government has made at least one arrest related to the shoot-down…
…Of the person who happened to film the missile strike. :smack:
I don’t understand any of this. Clearly it was an accident. Some guy thought it was a U.S. aircraft counter attacking after a missile strike and he made a terrible tragic mistake.
After hearing of this, there are massive protests on the street and the government wants to arrest him/them…probably execute him/them.
Why is there such outrage over an accident? I mean, I’m sure they are upset, but why a pound of flesh over this?
In part because people aren’t as willing to sweep things under the rug as you seem to be; in part because the government lied about it, and would have continued doing so had other countries not announced that there was good reason to believe it wasn’t a mechanical failure.
The government killed a whole bunch of its own citizens and tried to cover it up. Why wouldn’t people be angry?
Plus, the Iranian people haven’t been happy with their government for a while now - there have been massive, often bloody demonstrations for several months now. If this wasn’t the last straw, it was pretty damn close.