# US Capitol Locked Down - Shots Fired **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 3, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288 "2013-10-03T18:35:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/21 "2013-10-03T19:24:17Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > They’re the ones associated with the “2nd Amendment solution.” Some nut with a gun trying to do…something to the President or Congress is going to rather graphically illustrate their disconnect with reality. > > But not to worry. I’m betting Alex Jones is already calling it a false flag op to discredit True Americans. [Here’ ya go!](http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10/03/alex-jones-is-already-calling-shots-at-us-capit/196259) Enjoy! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/22 "2013-10-03T19:24:25Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > He must be at lunch. 😛 He’s been out to lunch for several years now. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![nonacetone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonacetone/32/2819_2.png) [@nonacetone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nonacetone)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/23 "2013-10-03T19:24:52Z")
CNN is reporting that there was a child in the car with the woman. Police were seen carrying the child away. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/24 "2013-10-03T19:25:00Z")
BBC is reporting that NBC and other news agencies are reporting a “female driver” rammed the White House gates with her car, then drove to the Capitol Building, got out and started shooting before she herself was shot. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/25 "2013-10-03T19:25:42Z")
If you want to debate political implications of this, pls. start a new thread. Let’s keep this one factually based on unfolding events, please. Thanks, **twickster** , MPSIMS moderator ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/26 "2013-10-03T19:27:25Z")
Damn, it’s 2:30am here, and I was just about to go to bed when this started. Now I want to stay up and see what’s what. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/27 "2013-10-03T19:32:37Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Also, and this is pure speculation, but I have a hunch this woman is upset about the shutdown (maybe out of work because of it) and the Tea Party is the group that’s keeping us shut down. … So you think she was gunning for Boehner, or a Tea Partier? ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/28 "2013-10-03T19:37:54Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > So you think she was gunning for Boehner, or a Tea Partier? The incident began at the White House, and ended on Capitol Hill. We know she was gunning the engine of her vehicle. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/29 "2013-10-03T19:39:21Z")
They’re interviewing some sort of police spokesman in the street. He’s surrounded by reporters and microphones. Asked about the child in the car, he said something about he “believes” there was one and they’re “looking into that.” 😕 Said the injured cop was definitely not shot. I’m a little surprised no one’s gone to shoot video of the smashed gate at the White House. They just keep showing the scene by the Capitol. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/30 "2013-10-03T19:44:32Z")
> [@nonacetone](#): > > CNN is reporting that there was a child in the car with the woman. “OK, since I’ve aced myself out of stopping at Dairy Queen anyway, let’s just see how far I can push ‘don’t make me stop this car!’” ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/31 "2013-10-03T19:45:32Z")
> [@Duckster](#): > > If you put aside the usual SDMB logic and debate for a minute, I expect ordinary people to start chaining this story to guns in general, gun nuts, conservative, hatred of government all the way to Tea Party. I’m already seeing it on Facebook posts. AFAIK, the only guns involved in the incident belonged to the police. Do you have info to the contrary? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/32 "2013-10-03T19:45:43Z")
A woman with a child in her car rams the White House and flees, shooting at police? My first guess is that there were substances or mental illness involved, not politics. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/33 "2013-10-03T19:48:04Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > So you think she was gunning for Boehner, or a Tea Partier? A friend of mine that lives there thinks it’s possible the woman drove into the gate by mistake (because it’s a pretty easy mistake to make, I guess) and then panicked when the cops tried to pull her over. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/34 "2013-10-03T19:49:56Z")
The police say one suspect is in custody, so I guess she’s not dead. (Unless they mean the child.) ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/35 "2013-10-03T19:52:54Z")
The woman was killed. The police officer that was hurt was not shot. From the main story on [NBCNews](http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/03/20805397-shots-fired-at-uscapitol-female-suspect-killed?lite): > [@](#): > > The United States Capitol was placed on lockdown Thursday afternoon after a woman tried to ram a car into the White House gate, was chased by Secret Service and exchanged shots with police, sources said. > > Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, describes the scene near her Cannon House office. Gunshots were reported on Capitol Hill on Thursday, October 3. > The suspect — who sources said had a child in the car — was shot and killed, and a shelter-in-place order was lifted at about 3 p.m. At least one Capitol Police officer was injured but apparently not shot. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/36 "2013-10-03T19:53:04Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > A friend of mine that lives there thinks it’s possible the woman drove into the gate by mistake (because it’s a pretty easy mistake to make, I guess) and then panicked when the cops tried to pull her over. I wondered about that. I don’t know DC, but I can imagine someone being lost. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/37 "2013-10-03T20:01:25Z")
Latest from CNN: > [@](#): > > - Police stopped a black vehicle near the White House. > > – Words were exchanged, the woman driver put the car in motion, and a chase began. > > – The chase ended near Capitol Hill. > > – The driver apparently was hit by gunfire. > > – The vehicle also contained a child. > > The child appeared to be uninjured, according to the source and witnesses. My fear is: There was no ramming of gates, the woman got frightened of questioning and drove off, she had no gun and ended up being shot anyway… Just a tragedy. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/38 "2013-10-03T20:04:48Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Latest from CNN: > > My fear is: There was no ramming of gates, the woman got frightened of questioning and drove off, she had no gun and ended up being shot anyway… Just a tragedy. Just saw that interview. All of the shots are said to have been fired by law enforcement. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/39 "2013-10-03T20:09:04Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > The woman was killed. The police officer that was hurt was not shot. > > From the main story on [NBCNews](http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/03/20805397-shots-fired-at-uscapitol-female-suspect-killed?lite): Capitol Police have yet to confirm the woman’s status. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/40 "2013-10-03T20:11:03Z")
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