# US Capitol Locked Down - Shots Fired **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 3, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288 "2013-10-03T18:35:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/61 "2013-10-03T21:44:44Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Here’s [video](http://bcove.me/k5gcd0ek)of the incident at the WH. > > I really cannot imagine what the heck she was thinking. Why would you run from a gaggle of police officers with guns drawn if you weren’t doing something wrong? That’s actually the NW corner of the Capitol - facing up Penn Ave towards the White House. This is where the first part of the chase came to before she swept east along Constitution Ave to where the chase ended. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/62 "2013-10-03T21:47:58Z")
> [@Werekoala](#): > > Who here was saying anything about it being the Administration’s fault? As **Euphonious Polemic** said in the bit you quoted, it was a Republican Representative who said it. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I really hope this nonsense: > > [http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/03/republican-lawmaker-blames-obama-and-congressional-dems-within-minutes-of-capitol-shooting/](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/03/republican-lawmaker-blames-obama-and-congressional-dems-within-minutes-of-capitol-shooting/) > > Comes back to bite certain people in the ass. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/63 "2013-10-03T21:48:56Z")
This incident puts the capital O in overreaction. One woman in a car crashes into a gate and flees. The whole capital goes into lock down, cops running with freaking machine guns. The newest reports indicate she was probably unarmed. What in the hell has happened to America? Cops openly brandishing machine guns in our country’s streets? ---
**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/64 "2013-10-03T21:49:56Z")
> [@Werekoala](#): > > In the meantime, this is looking more like some kind of tragic over-reaction by the police. Maybe suicide by cop, but why involve your kid? I anything I am shocked at how much control the police were displaying in that video - that is after a chase from the White House, after she was boxed in, after they have tried to subdue her several times without deadly force. To have allowed it to get that far is probably going to get some police officers in trouble. I have dealt with those officers often. It is surprising how little they are reacting. Perhaps they saw the child inside? Who knows. But from all the events I have seen over the years she was already many steps past the point at which deadly force was likely, especially around the Capitol. ---
**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/65 "2013-10-03T21:52:17Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > This incident puts the capital O in overreaction. One woman in a car crashes into a gate and flees. The whole capital goes into lock down, cops running with freaking machine guns. The newest reports indicate she was probably unarmed. > > What in the hell has happened to America? Cops openly brandishing machine guns in our country’s streets? The Oklahoma City bombing and 9/11 happened. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/66 "2013-10-03T21:56:13Z")
I’ll leave it to the LEO’s judgement that they took the necessary action needed. While it may seem a bit excessive to kill an unarmed woman driving a car with her child in the backseat, I wasn’t on the scene. It will be interesting to get a bit more backstory on her and what may have led up to the events that transpired earlier today. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/67 "2013-10-03T22:06:28Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > The Washington Post quotes witnesses saying she drove 20 yards past the 15th St. checkpoint at the White House and then spun around in front of the concrete barrier. Secret Service uniformed police tried to pull a metal gate in her way, but she drove through it and knocked the officer up onto the car. He rolled off onto the ground as she sped away. OK, official record is “temporary security fencing … at a very outer perimeter checkpoint”. Still no official word on the status of the driver. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/68 "2013-10-03T22:13:32Z")
> [@Werekoala](#): > > In the meantime, this is looking more like some kind of tragic over-reaction by the police. Maybe suicide by cop, but why involve your kid? On November 2, 1965, Norman Morrison brought his 11-month old daughter Emily and a can of kerosene to the Pentagon. After he’d doused himself but before he struck the match, a woman coaxed him into handing her the baby. A Quaker, Morrison was eulogized by his coreligionist for his act of pacifist self-sacrifice with the standard Friends blessing “hold him in the light,” utterly devoid of irony. ---
**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/69 "2013-10-03T22:13:45Z")
The presser is on right now. The driver was shot & killed at the end of the chase at the 100 block of Maryland Ave NE. The now famous video took place on the NW corner of the Capitol and was the first location of shooting. One thing being said here is that officers were struck and cars were rammed in the chase. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/70 "2013-10-03T22:14:52Z")
The driver has been “pronounced” according to Chief Lanier. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/71 "2013-10-03T22:27:18Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > This incident puts the capital O in overreaction. One woman in a car crashes into a gate and flees. The whole capital goes into lock down, cops running with freaking machine guns. The newest reports indicate she was probably unarmed. > > What in the hell has happened to America? Cops openly brandishing machine guns in our country’s streets? In case you missed last week, we just had someone enter a federal building and kill a lot of people. The entire city is on edge with the shutdown- it’s affecting is all in a very concrete way. DC is not taking much lightly right now. Most people in DC eventually end up accidentally driving someplace they shouldn’t be. Generally you get told very clearly and firmly what is going on, and why you should never do that again. You might get your picture taken. But the police are used to wrong turns. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/72 "2013-10-03T22:27:49Z")
> [@M253-The-Invader](#): > > If I was a betting man I’d say she was a Tea Bagger. When voting doesn’t fully work, and taking over Congress doesn’t work to ditch an elected official… crash an SUV into a pretty secure location. My guess is that she was from the hood, was having problems with her Obamaphone and just wanted to get a new one. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/73 "2013-10-03T22:37:24Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > My guess is that she was from the hood, was having problems with her Obamaphone and just wanted to get a new one. Great. Now I have [this song](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqq6jppAYFo) stuck in my head with slightly different lyrics: ---
**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/74 "2013-10-03T23:12:35Z")
> [@picunurse](#): > > The Oklahoma City bombing and 9/11 happened. I’d be puzzled to say what good cops with machine guns might have been in those two cases. (Stand on the WTC roof and open fire as AA Flight 11 approaches?) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/75 "2013-10-03T23:24:00Z")
Maybe she drove all the way from [del]Chicago[/del] Connecticut, killed a dog, lost her aunt, then found all the touristy spots closed, and got pissed? ---
**Author:** ![Werekoala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7993a0/32.png) [@Werekoala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Werekoala)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/76 "2013-10-03T23:58:25Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > As **Euphonious Polemic** said in the bit you quoted, it was a Republican Representative who said it. Again - who HERE did? But not to worry, other’s were quick to assign blame on the other side. Someone with a bit more tenure, pull, and one would think, sense. > **[Latest Political News & Articles | Observer](https://observer.com/politics/)** > > Observer covers the most current political news and political opinion articles, including local, national, and international politics. ---
**Author:** ![Myrnalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@Myrnalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrnalene)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/77 "2013-10-04T00:09:00Z")
> [@Werekoala](#): > > Again - who HERE did? Why are you demanding a cite to back up a claim no one made? ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/78 "2013-10-04T00:15:39Z")
She may not have had a gun but she was certainly using her car as a weapon. Reports are that she had some kind of mental illness issues. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/79 "2013-10-04T00:16:45Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > My guess is that she was from the hood, was having problems with her Obamaphone and just wanted to get a new one. She’s from Stamford, Connecticut - pretty far from the hood. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288/80 "2013-10-04T00:37:12Z")
Some variant of mental illness. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-locked-down-shots-fired/670288.md?page=5)