# US Capitol under siege **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 6, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830 "2021-01-06T20:27:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/281 "2021-01-07T19:54:28Z")
Thanks. I heard plenty of updates in the meantime. I just hope the movement doesn’t make a martyr of her. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/282 "2021-01-07T19:56:45Z")
…oh it will. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/283 "2021-01-07T19:56:51Z")
Fortunately there appears to be no flag. > **[Blutfahne](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blutfahne)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > The Blutfahne (pronounced \[ˈbluːtfaːnə\]), or Blood Flag, is or was a Nazi Party swastika flag that was carried during the attempted coup d’etat Beer Hall Putsch in Munich, Germany on 9 November 1923, during which it became soaked in the blood of one of the SA men who died. It subsequently became one of the most revered objects of the NSDAP. It was used in ceremonies in which new flags for party organizations were consecrated by the Blood Flag when... ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/284 "2021-01-07T19:58:59Z")
Traitor? ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/285 "2021-01-07T20:00:21Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Does anyone know of concerted efforts online to identify participants and encourage employment/social/legal implications? Yesterday CNN noted that there are surveillance cameras everywhere in the Capitol, so identification shouldn’t be too tough. And I think there is plenty of space in Gitmo for these scum. They can share cells with the other terrorists there. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/286 "2021-01-07T20:04:29Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > military did on 9/11. Bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/287 "2021-01-07T20:07:48Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > [Donald Trump](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/donald-trump)’s personal lawyer and former New York City mayor [Rudy Giuliani](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/rudy-giuliani), called for “trial by combat” while speaking to the “Save America” rally in front of the White House on Wednesday. Ghouli Rudy had photo-op with QAnon Shaman. [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErG9dEHVkAgfFYq.jpg) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErG9dEHVkAgfFYq.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/288 "2021-01-07T20:08:44Z")
[![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583920086042017824/796828891376254976/image0.jpg) ](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583920086042017824/796828891376254976/image0.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/289 "2021-01-07T20:09:25Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Sometimes, authoritarians overreach and miscalculate, and this might be one of those times. So, what you are saying is that if I’d been investing in real estate in Argentina, I’d be rich today? Dammit. > [@asahi](#): > > Senator Sasse: “Shovel your neighbor - er, shovel your neighbor’s driveway.” > > I think “Shovel your neighbor” was just his instinctive Republican Freudian slip. Oddly enough, during the last decent snowfall, I DID clear the driveway of 6 of my neighbors, one of whom is a violent Trumpist. The plow driver saw me, so he came back and plowed ice chunks into the aprons again. Thankfully my trusty snowblower ( “Lulubelle” ) was more than up to the task and I had three cleared as I was heading towards his again as the fourth. He had taken the effort to walk outside, lean on a shovel, and stare me down as I approached. “Hi, I cleared that before, but the plow came back. How about I clear it again?” \< Death Stare \> “No thanks.” “Are you sure? I’ve plenty of gas. It’ll take two minutes. No charge or anything.” \< Death Stare \> “No.” “Well, alright.” ( I then did everybody else’s apron. ) Look, some of the Trumpists are just Tools. Worthless crap-encrusted tools. Sometimes treating them like human beings is an honest waste of breath. > [@octopus](#): > > And who determines that? It does sound Robespierresque in philosophy. It never works out well. Well, maybe it wouldn’t work out well for You… ( Then again, who am I to say? I heard “Bridgerton” was a respectable NETFLIX series, but starting with episode #6, it was just Porn. Disgraceful. ) > [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Lastly, I read a couple of posts on one of the threads yesterday saying that mobs of Trumpites were supposedly headed for the Capitols of several states. I haven’t seen anything in the mainstream press about this, and nothing newsworthy seems to have happened. False, rumor? If they tried at all in Trenton, they must have all been mugged / severely beaten in Camden and sent home bloody with their meth-beards between their legs. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/290 "2021-01-07T20:14:40Z")
> [@GreenWyvern](#): > > Idiot wore his company badge while engaging in an attempted coup. They weren’t sending their best and brightest…Or actually maybe they were. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/291 "2021-01-07T20:15:29Z")
> [@GreenWyvern](#): > > Idiot wore his company badge while engaging in an attempted coup. You gotta sink pretty fuckin’ far to get fired “for cause” from what’s essentially a junk mail company. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/292 "2021-01-07T20:23:20Z")
Well, I wasn’t able to copy and paste to fuilly express my indebted appreciation and admiration, so I’ll just say it right here - thank-you, and thank-you for sharing. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/293 "2021-01-07T20:31:06Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > > [@GreenWyvern](#): > > > > Idiot wore his company badge while engaging in an attempted coup. > > You gotta sink pretty fuckin’ far to get fired “for cause” from what’s essentially a junk mail company. - Maybe he was a low effort worker who usually just phoned it in. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/294 "2021-01-07T20:46:17Z")
> [@GreenWyvern](#): > > Idiot wore his company badge while engaging in an attempted coup. > > [https://www.rawstory.com/dc-riots-employee-fired/](https://www.rawstory.com/dc-riots-employee-fired/) > > Now he needs to be arrested and charged. I heard yesterday’s protestors referred to as the “Coup Clutz Clan.” ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/295 "2021-01-07T21:01:40Z")
I like it! ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/296 "2021-01-07T21:05:34Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > I heard yesterday’s protestors referred to as the “Coup Clutz Clan.” Brilliant. I heard “PseudoCoup Players”, but this is better. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/297 "2021-01-07T21:30:16Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > It’s difficult to tell what information reaches those who think eradication or re-education are rational suggestions. Who knew the party of peaceful protests and pure virtue were so bloodthirsty? Personally, I’m made uncomfortable with the connotations of the term “re-education.” That said, it is essential that the people who rioted yesterday STOP BELIEVING the things they believe that led them to see their behavior as helpful of acceptable. Given that indisputable fact, can you suggest some rational means of causing that to come about? ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/298 "2021-01-07T21:41:01Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Given that indisputable fact, can you suggest some rational means of causing that to come about? As long as there are “information” sources such as Fox “News,” NewsMax, OANN, etc. that tell them what to believe and what not to believe, it will not be possible to change their viewpoint. These “information” sources know that Hate and Fear sells. Lot of money in that. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/299 "2021-01-07T21:43:07Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > That said, it is essential that the people who rioted yesterday STOP BELIEVING the things they believe that led them to see their behavior as helpful of acceptable. Street fight people whoa oh oh oh OHHHHHHH! ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/300 "2021-01-07T21:46:29Z")
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