# US Capitol under siege

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 6, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830 "2021-01-06T20:27:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/441 "2021-01-08T22:30:52Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Gosh. I hope we didn’t just char Lindsey Graham in the process 😉

Oh, Graham suffered some serious burns today.

> **[Trump supporters mob Sen. Lindsey Graham at Reagan Airport](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9127551/Trump-supporters-mob-Sen-Lindsey-Graham-Reagan-Airport-DC-call-traitor.html)**
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> Sen. Lindsey Graham made enemies with MAGA supporters this week, which he learned firsthand at Reagan Airport on Friday after earlier in the week he finally admitted Biden had won.

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> ‘You garbage human being,’ someone yells. ‘It’s gonna be like this forever wherever you go for the rest of your life.’

This is the country you helped build, Lindsey. Hope you’re enjoying it.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/442 "2021-01-08T22:36:05Z")

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For a moment, during that video, I swear I came [this close] to feeling sorry for ol’ Lindsey.

It was actually just a trapped fart.

I suspect the vast majority of the Y’all Qaeda types that we’r’e seeing will soon find another target for their perpetual outrage, but … until they do … they’re not the cohort I’d want tailing my family or me.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/443 "2021-01-08T23:04:12Z")

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I was a bit shocked my areas Vanilla ISIS members didn’t show up in DC. Folks like Matt Shea and Ammon Bundy have definitely declared their Yeehad.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/444 "2021-01-08T23:11:43Z")

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I had an encounter with 3 of them the night of the fifth. Details on request but the tldr version is that they made the dumbest Trumper on this board look like John Locke.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/445 "2021-01-08T23:13:25Z")

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Well, fucking share, Jaysus! Request. Request, already!

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/446 "2021-01-08T23:16:22Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> Details on request

Ok, I’ve got a gingerbread cookie and scotch, ready for the NOT TL story…

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/447 "2021-01-08T23:17:23Z")

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Request, request, request. I’m going to go locate a candy bar. BRB.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/448 "2021-01-08T23:21:42Z")

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He’s typing. Peer pressure worked again.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/449 "2021-01-08T23:22:15Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Folks like Matt Shea and Ammon Bundy have definitely declared their Yeehad.

But Ammon Bundy doesn’t like Trump. He wasn’t happy about Trump’s jackbooted Federal thugs in Portland, Bundy attended a BLM rally believe it or not. Bundy himself appears to be pretty consistent federal government hater, rather than a white supremacist. Of course, that aspect of his beliefs doesn’t endear him to most in that demographic.

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**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/450 "2021-01-08T23:26:47Z")

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I laughed. 😃

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/451 "2021-01-08T23:31:20Z")

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I went to a bar where my friend was working. (Me and the one other customer were outside, wearing masks, distanced) Three people, one man two women, in their early 60s by my guess. They were wearing flag capes, trump hats, etc. My friend got them a table next to a heat lamp and explained there wasn’t indoor service due to Covid. They grumbled, but sat down and looked at the menu. It’s mostly a Greek joint, but there is a very mediocre burger. They complained about the lack of American food and went to the pizzeria next door. The male came out and started talking to my friend.

“You know back in the early nineteen hunnerds when all them rats were spreading the plague? Well, you know you congress passed a law saying that the federal government couldn’t shut down the country for more than 14 days. It’s in your constitution!” My buddy smiled and nodded. It didn’t hurt that he’s a big pale bald dude, ex-military and wearing a DCFD cap.

Then the male went back into the pizzaria, emerged with a large pizza and some snacks, looked at my friend and went “See! American food!” They went off into the night.

I will not transcribe their accents. To give them their due, when they realized the wouldn’t be staying after using the bathroom, they gave my friend a few bucks.

ETA; It was a real you had to be there moment, but I hope you get the gist.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/452 "2021-01-08T23:36:23Z")

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Thanks! Well told. Now go out and find some more stories for us.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/453 "2021-01-08T23:36:46Z")

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The triumphant flourishing of a take-out pizza as more authentically “American food” than what you could get in the Greek-menu burger bar is the best part, to my mind.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/454 "2021-01-08T23:38:13Z")

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Yes, yes it was. I was about to make a “Well, actually” but thought better of it.

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**Author:** ![arles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/71c47a/32.png) [@arles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/arles)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/455 "2021-01-08T23:40:46Z")

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Video footage up to and including the shooting of Ashli Babbitt in the U.S. Capitol…  
(Note: it includes the actual shooting)

[[https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2021/01/08/ashli-babbitt-shooting-video-capitol/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2021/01/08/ashli-babbitt-shooting-video-capitol/)

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/456 "2021-01-08T23:49:04Z")

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Heh, while we’re “Well, actually”-ing, I found out some interesting (and sadly familiar-sounding) actual information about [the early 20th-c. US plague outbreak](https://www.history.com/news/first-plague-outbreak-united-states-california):

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> At the turn of the 20th century, the world was gripped by a [plague pandemic](https://www.cdc.gov/plague/history/index.html)that had spread from China to port cities around the globe. So when a 41-year-old San Franciscan named Wong Chut King died of a particularly violent disease in March 1900, there were worries that the [pandemic](https://www.history.com/topics/middle-ages/black-death) had finally reached U.S. soil. […]
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> Wong’s death marked the beginning of the United States’ first plague epidemic, which infected at least 280 people and killed at least 172 over the next eight years (the actual numbers of cases and deaths may be higher). The disease was [likely introduced](https://www.cdc.gov/plague/maps/index.html) by rat–infested steamships arriving at California’s shores from affected areas, mostly from Asia. But instead of alerting the public, city and state officials—including the governor of [California](https://www.history.com/topics/us-states/california)—denied there was any plague outbreak at all.
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> The reason for this cover-up was partly economic. There was a fear in San Francisco and the state capital of Sacramento that if news of the plague spread, it would hurt California’s economy […]
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> Official silence about the disease also entailed undermining Dr. Joseph J. Kinyoun, the head of the Marine Hospital Service in San Francisco who had identified the plague bacteria in Wong’s body. As a public health official, he was determined to stop the disease from spreading. At the same time, local politicians, business owners and newspapers were determined to discredit him […]
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> In a letter to the U.S. secretary of state cosigned by San Francisco jeans magnate Levi Strauss, Governor Gage blamed Kinyoun for the “plague fake,” as he called it, and claimed San Francisco had [“never seen a living case of plague.”](https://books.google.com/books?id=dgR1DwAAQBAJ&q=%E2%80%9Cnever+seen+a+living+case+of+plague%E2%80%9D#v=snippet&q=%E2%80%9Cnever%20seen%20a%20living%20case%20of%20plague%E2%80%9D&f=false)

Unsurprisingly, I can find zero evidence for any constitutional provision or other legislation from those years limiting the duration of federal government epidemic emergency measures to “14 days”. 🙄

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/457 "2021-01-08T23:52:44Z")

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Ok, I think he was conflating that with the Spanish Flu, though. Good to know, I thought he thought the bubonic plague was in the 20th century.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/458 "2021-01-08T23:54:35Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Thanks! Well told. Now go out and find some more stories for us.

Yeah. Tell us another! Some of us are stuck at home alone with only our well-behaved pets for company.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/459 "2021-01-09T00:03:25Z")

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Fucking geniuses. God damn, America. What the fuck is wrong in your stupid, stupid heads? And I don’t mean the bullet.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/460 "2021-01-09T00:20:21Z")

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Very true. But he does love a good ransacking of capitol and federal buildings.

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