# US Capitol under siege

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 6, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830 "2021-01-06T20:27:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/681 "2021-01-11T03:25:43Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> fuck this bag of turds sideways with a cactus
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> [QAnon congresswoman faces calls for arrest after live-tweeting Nancy Pelosi's location to rioters](https://www.rawstory.com/lauren-boebert-twitter/)

Well, shit. My Mom called me ranting about politics this week (because this week hasn’t been stressful enough) and was ranting about how people are trying to get HER representative to resign and they can’t take away HER vote that easily - so she was going to be out peacefully protesting, I guess. She kept saying her rep shouldn’t have to resign until she was proven to have committed wrongdoing. I didn’t really look into what was going on but if she was talking about THIS lady… oh, boy.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/682 "2021-01-11T03:29:40Z")

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Ok but why was she giving any info-intel on Pelosi?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/683 "2021-01-11T03:30:36Z")

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I’m saying that Trump has not been declared incapacitated, nor will he be. If they got to Pence, on Jan 6 or tomorrow, Pelosi would not be President.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/684 "2021-01-11T03:32:22Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> Ok but why was she giving any info-intel on Pelosi?-

Exactly. It’s not looking good for her. But she could make the claim that she was trying to discourage the mob by saying Pelosi wasn’t around anymore. Not that I’d believe her.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/685 "2021-01-11T03:38:14Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> But she could make the claim that she was trying to discourage the mob by saying Pelosi wasn’t around anymore.

Yeah, she’s a scumbag but they can’t make a criminal case just from that tweet. They would need to find more substantial evidence of her conspiring with the terrorists. But these people are so fucking stupid, that evidence may turn up.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/686 "2021-01-11T03:40:10Z")

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I think that its clear that they wanted to take out the chain of command. They knew the line of succession, take out Pence and Pelosi and Trump is President for life.

She should be in prison right now for giving the insurrectionists any intel.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/687 "2021-01-11T03:40:57Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Yeah, she’s a scumbag but they can’t make a criminal case just from that tweet. They would need to find evidence of her conspiring with the terrorists. But these people are so fucking stupid, that evidence may turn up.

Yes, definitely.

In addition, I’d imagine that future relations between her and Pelosi aren’t going to be very good.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/688 "2021-01-11T03:41:44Z")

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She gave comfort to the enemy.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/689 "2021-01-11T03:43:56Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> {…} take out Pence and Pelosi and Trump is President for life. {…}

That is so far from how this works, it’s actually ‘potato’.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/690 "2021-01-11T03:46:33Z")

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Take out Pence and Pelosi means Trump is president until January 20 when Biden takes over. You and I know that but i guess The Treason loving nut jobs may not be so clear.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/691 "2021-01-11T03:50:52Z")

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She was elected from western Colorado. It is a non-small district that includes Steamboat Springs, Grand Junction, Rifle, Aspen, Durango, Alamosa, Walsenburg, Pueblo and points in between.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/692 "2021-01-11T03:54:50Z")

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Yes, but they don’t think the election was valid so Biden wouldn’t take over on January 20. So the goal to them, was to take them both out.

Rep. Lauren Boebert giving any intel on Pelosi’s whereabouts helped MAGAs cause. She should be charged accordingly.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/693 "2021-01-11T04:00:25Z")

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She can claim stupidity rather than malice. She’s certainly very stupid

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/694 "2021-01-11T04:05:51Z")

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There is a whole chain of succession with more than a dozen people in it, most of whom were not in the Capitol.

Of course, most of the ones who weren’t in the Capitol are in the Cabinet, but no matter what, at noon on January 20, Trump is OUT.

> **[United States presidential line of succession](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession)**
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> The United States presidential line of succession is the order in which the vice president of the United States and other officers of the United States federal government assume the powers and duties of the U.S. presidency (or the office itself, in the instance of succession by the vice president) upon an elected president's death, resignation, removal from office, or incapacity.
> The order of succession specifies that the office passes to the...

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/695 "2021-01-11T04:11:10Z")

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Yes but the direct line is Pelosi. We know they were planning to kill the VP. It goes from Trump to Pence to Pelosi. Why are we playing games with this?

This is that bullshit handwaving that you want to do when it’s your people. MAGA figured that if the VP and the speaker were gone then MAGA would win. That was their intent. They weren’t looking at Wiki. give me a fucking break with that shit.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/696 "2021-01-11T04:15:49Z")

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I think we are going to see, in retrospect, that we are suffering from a failure of imagination at this moment. We aren’t seeing what is coming together before our eyes.

We are watching the beginning of the end game to the greatest crime in our nation’s history. It’s so unthinkable that we don’t know how to think it, and even if we think it, it’s too crazy to say out loud.

In 2016, the federal government of the United States of America was co-opted by a criminal organization and they really don’t want us to see what they’ve been up to. And they really don’t want to go away.

I don’t have time to lay out my case tonight, but I’m working on it.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/697 "2021-01-11T04:25:28Z")

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I’ve said in other posts that the US, as it was known, was over for sure in '16. I said back then, on this board there is no coming back from this.

We have to think about the future now, which of course won’t be seen in my lifetime. We have to make the decision now on what path we go.

So far it doesn’t look good.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/698 "2021-01-11T04:25:50Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> She should be in prison right now for giving the insurrectionists any intel.

Jesus! Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

How about a trial before we send people to prison? Even traitors get fair trials in this country.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/699 "2021-01-11T04:28:34Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> Yes, but they don’t think the election was valid so Biden wouldn’t take over on January 20. So the goal to them, was to take them both out.

It doesn’t matter what they thought. Biden will be inaugurated at 12:00 noon on Jan. 20. Trump can’t stop that. If Trump is still in the White House after that, Biden can instruct the Secret Service to escort him out of the building. Trump’s own Secret Service detail would undoubtedly assist them.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/700 "2021-01-11T04:31:49Z")

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Dude. Get a grip. The information about the line of succession was for _your_ reference since you are apparently having hysterics about it.

Most of the insurrectionists are too stupid to understand that their plan was _useless_. There are plenty of people to step in for the last 10 days of Trump’s presidency if it became necessary (and it apparently won’t be, more’s the pity), so killing Pence and Pelosi does the insurrectionists and Trump no good at all, and Biden will still be President on January 20. Killing their way down the line of succession doesn’t change that. It will never change that.

However, if they had succeeded in killing either Pence or Pelosi or both, no hole in the world would be deep enough for them.

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