# US Capitol under siege **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 6, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830 "2021-01-06T20:27:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/822 "2021-01-15T14:13:41Z")
And it has nothing to do with the color of the skin of those who they were potentially fearful of at all. Nope. Yeah I feel for the cop in that video but seriously. They had grabbed his badge, his radio, his ammunition cartridges, and only after they were going for his gun and some were out loud yelling to shoot him with his own gun did he decide that his life was possibly in danger and that he might have to consider deadly force? Only not doing so because he realized it would not likely work to save his life. How different would this have gone from before getting to that point if the crowd was Black or Hispanic? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/823 "2021-01-15T14:26:20Z")
I’m wondering if impeachment doesn’t play right into McConnell’s hands. If Trump is convicted, McConnell can get Trump ruled ineligible to run again and try to spin it as the Democrats’ fault. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/824 "2021-01-15T14:48:25Z")
I assume McConnell is constantly thinking about how he can spin an impeachment trial and turn it against the Democrats – there’s not a doubt in my mind for a single second that he’s strategizing in this way and we’re naive if we believe he’s doing it for the good of the country. McConnell has never worked for the good of the country, and he never will. We must never, ever forget that. His obstruction in many ways is a major contributor to the Capitol riot. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/825 "2021-01-15T15:13:41Z")
I had wondered about the financing and the role of cryptocurrency. Presumably, if alt-right activists were using cryptocurrency, it would be to conceal transactions, most likely because they are connected to some sort of illegal activity, the funding of which they’d want to conceal from the US banking system. If investigators could find out who funded what, we’d have some smoking guns, and I suspect that we’d recognize some names. > **[Exclusive: Large bitcoin payments to right-wing activists a month before...](https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-large-bitcoin-payments-to-rightwing-activists-a-month-before-capitol-riot-linked-to-foreign-account-181954668.html)** > > U.S. law enforcement is investigating whether a bitcoin transfer to right-wing organizations and personalities was linked to the Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol. ---
**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/826 "2021-01-15T16:23:38Z")
I’ve seen some commentary that McConnell wants Trump to be convicted and purged from the party, but doesn’t want to be the guy in charge when it goes to the Senate, so he’s trying to get it put off til the new senate is seated and when Trump out of the WH so he has less power to damage any Republicans who might grow a spine. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/827 "2021-01-15T23:10:41Z")
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/828 "2021-01-15T23:46:57Z")
Done! [![](https://i.ibb.co/fnVb634/Dances-with-Karens.jpg) ](https://i.ibb.co/fnVb634/Dances-with-Karens.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/829 "2021-01-15T23:48:11Z")
Worst. Movie. Ever. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/830 "2021-01-16T00:10:07Z")
Rated R? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/831 "2021-01-16T01:01:54Z")
Almost certainly porn for people with a middle-aged MILF fetish. ---
**Author:** ![gnarator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gnarator/32/8266_2.png) [@gnarator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarator)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/832 "2021-01-16T01:24:27Z")
Rated Q ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/833 "2021-01-16T01:50:45Z")
Nice, **Bo**! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/834 "2021-01-16T02:11:37Z")
> **[QAnon Shaman was ‘invited’ by Trump to storm Capitol, lawyer says](https://www.oregonlive.com/nation/2021/01/qanon-shaman-was-invited-by-trump-to-storm-capitol-lawyer-says.html?outputType=amp)** > > He's also hoping for a pardon from President Donald Trump. So, which is it? Were you sent or were you “invited”? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/835 "2021-01-16T02:22:47Z")
Certainly some choice quotes to bring up at the impeachment hearings. > “I think he was open to the suggestion that the election was rigged and forces were out to get Trump and he believed Trump’s statements that this was like Valley Forge all over again.” > > “Christ, you’ve got a president who has been rabble-rousing for six or seven months,” Watkins said. > Watkins said his client was “answering the call of our president,” and likened the relationship between Trump and his followers to the relationship between cult leader Jim Jones and members of the Peoples Temple. I guess Watkins is going for the “my client is a complete nutter” defense. ---
**Author:** ![pirviii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pirviii/32/3233_2.png) [@pirviii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pirviii)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/836 "2021-01-16T03:25:53Z")
It sounds like they are trying a variant of the “just following orders” defense. That always works, right? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/837 "2021-01-16T04:37:26Z")
A Congressman makes this stunning tweet: > His link is broken – if you want to see to page, you have to remove “breaking” from the end of the url. Turns out the person in question has been mentioned in detail on another long thread on twitter [https://twitter.com/RebellionBaby/status/1331902008765206528](https://twitter.com/RebellionBaby/status/1331902008765206528) So, maybe not. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/838 "2021-01-16T06:16:47Z")
Sullivan was present when the woman was shot. Interviewed the night of the riot by Anderson Cooper. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/839 "2021-01-16T08:17:11Z")
> **[PolitiFact - Facebook posts wrongly claim left-wing activist, antifa...](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/09/facebook-posts/facebook-posts-wrongly-claim-left-wing-activist-an/)** > > UPDATE, Jan. 15, 2021: Following the publication of this fact-check, John Sullivan was arrested Jan. 14 in Utah, the U.S > John Sullivan, an activist from Utah, joined supporters of President Donald Trump who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. He said he was trying to document what happened. > There’s no evidence that Sullivan “incited (the) insurgence” alone amid a crowd of thousands. Video he uploaded online shows his perspective as he filmed. > Sullivan denied any affiliation to the broad antifa coalition, although he has posted related hashtags on his Twitter accounts. There remains no legitimate evidence that the mob at the Capitol was infiltrated or led by antifa activists in disguise. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/840 "2021-01-16T13:30:30Z")
Yeah - I saw that interview the day of the riot, and kept saying, “Why isn’t this guy locked up?” He was the only person of color I recall seeing in the film from inside the capitol. They identified him as an independent film-maker and member of a group called something like “insurgency”. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/841 "2021-01-16T15:01:27Z")
I hadn’t seen before how exactly Rosanne Boyland, the woman who died from being trod on after carrying a “Don’t Tread On Me” flag, died. She could have just been in the general mass of protestors. But [this story](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/15/us/rosanne-boyland-capitol-riot-death.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage) makes it clear that she was voluntarily right at the side of the rioters who were viciously attacking Capitol police with sticks and other weapons in an effort to force a door. I have no sympathy at all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830.md?page=41) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830.md?page=43)