# US Capitol under siege **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 6, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830 "2021-01-06T20:27:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/882 "2021-01-18T15:05:42Z")
> **[Lindsey Graham blames Nancy Pelosi for Capitol riot, because they're totally...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/1/17/2009980/-Lindsey-Graham-blames-Nancy-Pelosi-for-Capitol-riot-because-they-re-totally-out-of-ideas-now?pm_source=story_sidebar&pm_medium=web&pm_campaign=most-shared)** > > On the evening of January 6, in the aftermath of the Capitol riots, Donald Trump’s fave toady, Lindsey Graham, said this: “All I can say is, count me out. Enough is enough. ... It is over.”  To me that sounded like this unabashed lickspittle... > On the evening of January 6, in the aftermath of the Capitol riots, Donald Trump’s fave toady, Lindsey Graham, said this: “All I can say is, count me out. Enough is enough. … It is over.” > > To me that sounded like this unabashed lickspittle was giving up either the lick or the spittle or both. > > That was 11 days ago, which is apparently **the maximum amount of time Graham can live outside of Donald Trump’s rectum sans life support** before the “do not resuscitate” order kicks in. Because this morning on Fox News, he was dry-humping Trump’s evaporating ghost like it was still the good ol’ days. > … Note to self: do not read part I bolded with a mouthful of coffee. > > GRAHAM: “It was horrendous to see people come and take over the Capitol, the House and the Senate, beat officers, defile the seat of government — how the hell could that happen? Where was Nancy Pelosi, it’s her job to provide Capitol security. We’ll get to the bottom of that.” > > Where was Nancy Pelosi? Good question. I’m pretty sure she was hiding from a murderous mob that Donald Trump had sent to kill her, but nice try. > … ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/883 "2021-01-18T15:42:08Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > I live there. > And I vote Blue. > And Georgia just put two Democrats in the Senate. > [@madmonk28](#): > > Georgia just graduated to the civilized world. Same with Arizona, although not both at once. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/884 "2021-01-18T15:55:36Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Same with Arizona, although not both at once. Don’t give us too much credit. We still have a big chunk the Sedition Caucus - Biggs, Gosar, Lesko, and Schwiekert, plus Governor Weather Vane, who thinks covid masks are an affront to LIBERTY, but also that we have too much covid. But not enough that we need to close businesses. And don’t get me started on state politics. We have openly racist state reps, plus a guy who was involved with human trafficking. > **[Arizona Politician Charged With Human Trafficking](https://www.courthousenews.com/arizona-politician-charged-with-human-trafficking/)** > > An Arizona elected official ran a human smuggling scheme that promised pregnant women thousands of dollars to lure them from a Pacific Island nation to the United States, where they were crammed into houses to wait to give birth, sometimes with... So yes, Q, there IS government-run sex trafficing. And it’s the repubs doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/885 "2021-01-18T16:18:19Z")
The FBI is running checks on the 20K ish national guard troops at the capital, because they fear an inside attack. Now that’s a bit more scary. Having our own troops assassinate the President is really third-world-shithole-ish. And worse, can we trust the FBI? How about the Secret Service? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/886 "2021-01-18T17:35:14Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > security measures for Wednesday and offering advice on how to get around them I wonder if that part of that advice involves getting there via Virginia. Virtually all of the bridges directly into DC will close tomorrow morning and remain closed for the duration; only Key Bridge (between Rosslyn & Georgetown) and Chain Bridge (way up by DC’s western corner) will remain open, AFAIK. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/887 "2021-01-18T18:00:00Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > > [@cochrane](#): > > > > Same with Arizona, although not both at once. > > Don’t give us too much credit. We still have a big chunk the Sedition Caucus - Biggs, Gosar, Lesko, and Schwiekert, plus Governor Weather Vane, who thinks covid masks are an affront to LIBERTY, but also that we have too much covid. But not enough that we need to close businesses. > > And don’t get me started on state politics. We have openly racist state reps, plus a guy who was involved with human trafficking. > > [https://www.courthousenews.com/arizona-politician-charged-with-human-trafficking/](https://www.courthousenews.com/arizona-politician-charged-with-human-trafficking/) > > **So yes, Q, there IS government-run sex trafficing. And it’s the repubs doing it.** Well, there HAS BEEN (and not actually sex trafficking, more like baby-selling). Anyhow, after his October, 2019 indictment, he pleaded guilty in June of last year, and started serving a six-year sentence in December. [My source.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Petersen_(criminal)) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/888 "2021-01-18T18:05:47Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > The FBI is running checks on the 20K ish national guard troops at the capital, because they fear an inside attack. Now that’s a bit more scary. Having our own troops assassinate the President is really **third-world** -shithole-ish. > > And worse, can we trust the FBI? How about the Secret Service? [Yeah, I guess India IS considered a third-world country, at that.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Indira_Gandhi) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/889 "2021-01-18T18:16:48Z")
I would advise my US friends to avoid terms like 3rd world and shithole countries; Karma has been known to be a vindictive bitch. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/890 "2021-01-18T20:38:16Z")
I believe in calling a shithole a shithole. And under Trump we were certainly headed towards shithole territory. (Please note that I do NOT consider most other countries to be shitholes. Very few, in fact. Mostly North Korea and some pretty nearly lawless places.) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/891 "2021-01-19T01:26:16Z")
Another genius caught: > **[White Supremacist Arrested after Ankle Monitor Places Him at Capitol Riots](https://www.newsweek.com/white-supremacist-bryan-betancur-gps-proud-boys-1562364)** > > Bryan Betancur was allowed to travel to the capital on probation while wearing GPS after getting permission to "distribute bibles." > The suspect was arrested after a GPS device he wears as part of his probation following a fourth degree burglary conviction tracked him to being at the Capitol on January 6. The GPS was able to place Betancur in the vicinity of the building from between 2 p.m. and 5 p.m. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/892 "2021-01-19T01:59:07Z")
fuck these assholes ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/893 "2021-01-19T08:18:43Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > > [@cochrane](#): > > > > Same with Arizona, although not both at once. > > Don’t give us too much credit. We still have a big chunk the Sedition Caucus - Biggs, Gosar, Lesko, and Schwiekert, plus Governor Weather Vane, who thinks covid masks are an affront to LIBERTY, but also that we have too much covid. But not enough that we need to close businesses. > > And don’t get me started on state politics. We have openly racist state reps, plus a guy who was involved with human trafficking. > > [https://www.courthousenews.com/arizona-politician-charged-with-human-trafficking/](https://www.courthousenews.com/arizona-politician-charged-with-human-trafficking/) > > So yes, Q, there IS government-run sex trafficing. And it’s the repubs doing it. You forgot the State Rep. who got angry and told a Navajo man to go back to where he came from. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/894 "2021-01-19T09:43:48Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Y’all Q-da? This deserves recognition. Pronounced “yall-KYOO-duh” I presume. ---
**Author:** ![pirviii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pirviii/32/3233_2.png) [@pirviii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pirviii)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/895 "2021-01-19T21:46:27Z")
I think of it as Y’all-Kay-Duh as a play on al-qaeda. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/896 "2021-01-20T07:57:59Z")
Variations on “y’all Qaida” are clever and amusing, but considering the middle-to-upper-class demographic of the Trump cult, as clearly exposed by the ongoing Capitol Riot arrests (not to mention by all the polls and surveys over the last few years, for anyone paying attention), the suggestion that this group can be characterized as fringe rednecks is inaccurate, bordering on dangerously misleading. I did laugh, initially, but at this point I’d like to see the stereotype retired, because its persistence creates a risk of failing to understand the true nature of the insurrectionist phenomenon. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/897 "2021-01-20T09:47:36Z")
How about “Pale Qaeda?” ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/898 "2021-01-20T09:52:17Z")
In the UK angry white right wingers are called “gammon” due to their flushed expressions. I thought it was a new term (and in many ways it is) but it’s usage in this sort of manner goes back to at least the 17th century > **[Gammon (insult)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gammon_(insult))** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > > > Gammon is a pejorative popularised in British political culture since around 2012. The term refers in particular to the colour of a person's flushed face when expressing their strong opinions, as compared to the type of pork of the same name. It is characterized in this context by the Oxford English Dictionary as occurring "in various parasynthetic adjectives referring to particularly reddish or florid complexions". ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/899 "2021-01-22T13:37:32Z")
The only problem with using “gammon” in the USA is that absolutely nobody knows what it really means. So the allusion is lost. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/900 "2021-01-22T14:13:58Z")
Baloney. Everyone knows it’s the bad guy from the Zelda series. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/901 "2021-01-22T15:47:34Z")
This OP is pretty sure there won’t be any more morons stirring up shit at the capitol any time soon, so, mods - feel free to close this. Thanks everyone for contributing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830.md?page=44) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830.md?page=46)