# US Capitol under siege

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 6, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830 "2021-01-06T20:27:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/161 "2021-01-07T02:39:28Z")

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I don’t think a “purge” is realistic, but I do think that certain groups should be labeled terrorists, in the same way Antifa was, and I propose letting FBI/DHS monitor their daily doings accordingly. They should infiltrate these groups and charge them with conspiracy. Do it enough, and they’ll get the picture.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/162 "2021-01-07T02:40:08Z")

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So basically, normal law enforcement and getting rid of the most dangerous radicals? Well, I can’t disagree with that.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/163 "2021-01-07T02:41:39Z")

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Right, but with an emphasis of breaking the backs of these organizations as a whole, not just going after a few individuals. They will also have to take on social media and their fake “policies.”

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/164 "2021-01-07T02:45:16Z")

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That I’m not sure how you can actually do without state ownership of press or state censorship. You aren’t worried that that would be worse than the problem? Living in a totalitarian state such as China has some downsides.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/165 "2021-01-07T02:47:17Z")

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No, not worried. They should be regulated in the public interest.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/166 "2021-01-07T02:59:24Z")

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And who determines that? It does sound Robespierresque in philosophy. It never works out well.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/167 "2021-01-07T03:04:36Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> So explain this to me: if there was really and truly election fraud, why would today’s events change anything? Why have Senators Loeffler, Cruz, Lankford and others had a change of heart?

Cruz, at least, didn’t have a change of heart. He was the first of a, so far, smattering of Aye votes. I don’t think Hawley voted either way even after he said there should be a commission.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/168 "2021-01-07T03:09:04Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Cruz, at least, didn’t have a change of heart. -

🎶 Melt him down and you’ll reveal a lump of lead as cold as steel \< here! \> where a Christian’s heart should be! 🎶  
Apologies to Meredith Wilson.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/169 "2021-01-07T03:53:34Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I would absolutely consider expelling senators – starting with Hawley and Cruz.

I hear St. Helena is lovely this time of year.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/170 "2021-01-07T04:12:56Z")

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Could we take up a collection and buy asahi and octopus their very own message board so they can stop polluting the SDMB with their hyper-partisan bullshit?

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/171 "2021-01-07T04:17:53Z")

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DC police reporting 51 arrests, 4 deaths, and 2 pipe bombs. One shot, three medical emergencies.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/172 "2021-01-07T04:24:05Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Could we take up a collection and buy asahi and octopus their very own message board so they can stop polluting the SDMB with their hyper-partisan bullshit?

Both sides! (Not.)

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/173 "2021-01-07T04:39:23Z")

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(I should mention that I have occasionally disagreed with asahi — specifically when he calls Trumpublicans “insects” or “vermin” — this is just too reminiscent of Nazi dehumanizing terms. But he’s not “hyper-partisan,” just observant.)

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/174 "2021-01-07T04:47:52Z")

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Hyper-observant.

It’s a curse. Keeps him up at night.  
For the last few decades…

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**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnM)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/175 "2021-01-07T04:48:55Z")

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Thank you for the vocabulary lesson, fuckwad. I suppose my incipient aneurysm made me choose the wrong word. What’s your excuse for the fascist-adjacent stream of posts that you feel obliged to share with the benighted Teaming Masses?

I’ve never ignored a poster before, so congrats for being my first. Buh bye.

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**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/176 "2021-01-07T05:39:50Z")

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I’m sure he had his first little hard-on since Stormy.

People fighting and literally now dying for him? It’s gotta make his… ego… swell.

I loathe him beyond what my words can express.

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**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/177 "2021-01-07T05:43:50Z")

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They are stupid, racist, despicable idiots.

They are still _people._

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/178 "2021-01-07T05:49:34Z")

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True. Understood. Definitely a road I’d prefer not goin down.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/179 "2021-01-07T05:54:37Z")

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> [@Savannah](#):
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> They are stupid, racist, despicable idiots.
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> They are still _people._

Heck, only _people_ can be racist, hateful and bigoted.

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-capitol-under-siege/929830/180 "2021-01-07T06:44:04Z")

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\*female criminal.

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