# US Dopers - how do you feel about Trump's threats to Canada? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 24, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348 "2025-01-24T18:19:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/201 "2025-02-03T19:20:10Z")
Charlie Angus, an NDP MP just compared Trump to “Al Capone during his syphilitic period” on CNN. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/202 "2025-02-03T19:20:52Z")
I just spotted an interesting statistic - "The U.S. relies on imports for over 95% of its potash fertilizer needs, with nearly 90% of that coming from Canada, according to data from the USDA. A disruption to the U.S.-Canadian trade relationship like the imposed tariffs will have “significant ripple effects” not just for farmers but for the broader food supply chain and ultimately the prices consumers pay at the grocery store, according to The Fertilizer Institute, the nation’s leading voice of the fertilizer industry with roots dating back to 1883." Source - [The Fertilizer Institute cautions Trump's tariffs on Canadian imports](https://www.agweek.com/news/policy/the-fertilizer-institute-cautions-trumps-tariffs-on-canadian-imports) So there’s an ace that Canada is sitting on… ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/203 "2025-02-03T20:00:38Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > I just spotted an interesting statistic - "The U.S. relies on imports for over 95% of its potash fertilizer needs, with nearly 90% of that coming from Canada, according to data from the USDA. Related FQ thread. > [@What the hell is "Potash?"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-is-potash/1013436): > > Inspired by this quote from the “Retaliatory Tariffs” thread in Politics and Elections: I’d read about potash in my geography textbooks in fifth grade, but I never got a clear idea of what it IS. I guess about fifty years or so ago, I decided that it was a fancy jargonalicious name for potassium. Please, can someone save me a trip to Wikipedia? I don’t have much appetite for another round of “WIKIPEDIA IS NOT FOR SALE” pledge requests. Not today. TIA ETA: Do a good job with this, and next we… ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/204 "2025-02-03T20:21:24Z")
Doug Ford is having all American alcohol pulled from store shelves, cancelling Ontario’s contract with Starlink, and barring American companies from bidding on provincial contracts. [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:uz5apa2z3jrxhjjzqw5qik65/bafkreibmgkfxsukgi7sxzcdusgbproxd4d33vudo3zvb47sfbhg4baih7q@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:uz5apa2z3jrxhjjzqw5qik65/bafkreibmgkfxsukgi7sxzcdusgbproxd4d33vudo3zvb47sfbhg4baih7q@jpeg) > **[Canada’s Largest Province Axes Deal With Musk’s Starlink](https://www.thedailybeast.com/canadas-largest-province-axes-deal-with-elon-musks-starlink-bans-us-firms-from-bidding-on-contracts/)** > > “Ontario won’t do business with people hellbent on destroying our economy,” said Premier Doug Ford. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/205 "2025-02-03T20:46:22Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Doug Ford is having all American alcohol pulled from store shelves A relevant statistic: the LCBO (Ontario liquor board) is the largest single purchaser of alcohol in the world. Plus, BC and Quebec (at least) are doing the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Slight\_Off\_Hand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@Slight\_Off\_Hand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slight_Off_Hand)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/206 "2025-02-03T20:50:17Z")
New Brunswick and Nova Scotia as well. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/207 "2025-02-03T22:03:56Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > A relevant statistic: the LCBO (Ontario liquor board) is the largest single purchaser of alcohol in the world. Plus, BC and Quebec (at least) are doing the same thing. This is literally true but sort of implies a degree of influence LCBO might have that it does not. It’s the world’s largest purchaser only because no other jurisdiction of similar size has such a weird system for selling booze. It probably constitutes maybe two percent, at best, of a major American liquor company’s total sales. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/208 "2025-02-03T22:04:46Z")
Tariffs pushed back a month, for some reason, on both Mexico and Canada. So just another 30 days of wondering WTF is happening in Washington. Apparently Justin Trudeau agreed to appoint a “fentanyl czar” and declare major Mexican drug cartels to be terrorist organizations, both purely symbolic moves that cost Canada nothing except the salary of this “czar” who will probably spend most of their days trying to find something to do. He also promised more border patrols, which we were already doing anyway and which is fine for us in terms of stopping the flow of guns from the USA. The Canadian Quislings who wanted us to give away everything look stupid for now. Granted, Trump still has malice in mind. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/209 "2025-02-03T22:09:58Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Tariffs pushed back a month, for some reason, on both Mexico and Canada. For the former, I read somewhere that President Sheinbaum agreed to send 10,000 troops to the U.S. border to help with drug enforcement & interdiction. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/210 "2025-02-03T22:11:49Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > For the former, I read somewhere that President Sheinbaum agreed to send 10,000 troops to the U.S. border to help with drug enforcement & interdiction. Which Mexico had started doing in 2021, to help Joe Biden, without needing a huge tariff spat. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/211 "2025-02-03T22:13:39Z")
From what I’ve read Mexico already has 15,000 soldiers on the border, so a promise of 10,000 is actually a drawdown. It’s a good thing Trump is a delirium-ravaged idiot who can’t tell when he’s being played as long as the person doing so flatters his ego. ---
**Author:** ![Slight\_Off\_Hand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@Slight\_Off\_Hand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slight_Off_Hand)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/212 "2025-02-03T22:14:07Z")
I will still be avoiding American made and encouraging elected officials at every level to do what they can to find new markets and diversify regardless of the outcome. This was a warning shot and I hope we take heed. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/213 "2025-02-03T22:19:06Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > It’s a good thing Trump is a delirium-ravaged idiot who can’t tell when he’s being played as long as the person doing so flatters his ego. This is the ultimate rosy scenario. Here’s my less rosy guess. The U.S. was not ready to collect the tariffs tomorrow, but in 30 days, we will be. ---
**Author:** ![deltogre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deltogre/32/5041_2.png) [@deltogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltogre)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/214 "2025-02-03T22:20:51Z")
I will go on record as saying, if Trump causes an actual, physical conflict with Canada, I will renounce my USA citizenship, and fight on the side of what is right. Same for my Mexican brothers and sisters. Keep that booze off the shelves. Hit back where it hurts; in the wallet. It’s the only way these slack-jawed morons will realize what a fucking moron they voted for… ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/215 "2025-02-03T22:22:26Z")
> [@Slight\_Off\_Hand](#): > > I will still be avoiding American made . . . It is a horrible unpatriotic thing for me to say, but snowbirds going home will have a bigger impact. If you must get away from the cold by going to Florida, go to Key West. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/216 "2025-02-03T22:25:07Z")
Another “win” for DJ: [![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54305866690_127d5d6c0d.jpg) ](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54305866690_127d5d6c0d.jpg) A “Fentanyl Czar”? Is fentanyl even a problem at the U.S.-Canada border? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/217 "2025-02-03T22:30:01Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > Is fentanyl even a problem at the U.S.-Canada border? Huge. Of the fentanyl coming into the U.S. about one quarter of one percent comes in from Canada! (Most of the rest comes through legal entry points on our southern border.) ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/218 "2025-02-03T22:32:42Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Huge. Of the fentanyl coming into the U.S. about one quarter of one percent comes in from Canada! Yea, Orange Man doesn’t even realize he got played, here. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/219 "2025-02-03T22:44:53Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Here’s my less rosy guess. The U.S. was not ready to collect the tariffs tomorrow, but in 30 days, we will be. Honestly, I’d say it’s 50/50 that Trump is even still president 30 days from now. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-dopers-how-do-you-feel-about-trumps-threats-to-canada/1013348/220 "2025-02-03T22:48:19Z")
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