# US Gov't Logic?  Please explain.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 16, 2003, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-govt-logic-please-explain/148977 "2003-01-16T15:07:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![UncleBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d26b3c/32.png) [@UncleBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBill)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-govt-logic-please-explain/148977/21 "2003-01-16T17:44:24Z")

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I know a person who knows more about this situation than approximately 100% of the US Population (so damn close it doesn’t matter). I feel he is convinced, from what he has said.

I would certainly feel better if there WERE justifications, that enough would be made public to ease my misgivings.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-govt-logic-please-explain/148977/22 "2003-01-16T17:44:47Z")

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Honestly, I don’t get what hte big deal is about whether he’s violating the peace terms in this particular manner. After all, he’s violating them daily in a number of other ways (starving his people, firing at allied aircraft, etc.).

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-govt-logic-please-explain/148977/23 "2003-01-16T17:49:04Z")

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You almost make me want to be a biologist, \*\*Jackmannii/b].

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-govt-logic-please-explain/148977/24 "2003-01-16T17:53:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Monty \*  
> \*\*Honestly, I don’t get what hte big deal is about whether he’s violating the peace terms in this particular manner. After all, he’s violating them daily in a number of other ways (starving his people, firing at allied aircraft, etc.). \*\*

Which makes the vague facts we can’t reveal, saber rattling, and current spin even more bizarre.

It seems like they could achieve the same result, simply by bringing the things you mentioned more to the forefront.

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**Author:** ![UncleBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d26b3c/32.png) [@UncleBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBill)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-govt-logic-please-explain/148977/25 "2003-01-16T18:01:01Z")

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FWIW, FoxNEWS is now reporting the UN Inspectors have found shell casings that normally contain chemical weapons. 12 empty chemical warheads 122mm sized (artillery delivered). 11 empty, now checking to see if the 12th has traces. This seems to be a direct violation of the rules.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-govt-logic-please-explain/148977/26 "2003-01-16T18:31:59Z")

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More about the 12(11?) warheads [here.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A1357-2003Jan16.html)

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**Author:** ![CRorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CRorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CRorex)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-govt-logic-please-explain/148977/27 "2003-01-16T20:24:34Z")

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Well FUCK I was right.

Empty warheads so you can claim, “We have no chemical weapons, see the warheads are empty!” And god knows how many barrels of refined chemicals buried in the sand.

Hrrm I think it’s time to contact the NSA again. Government job for me.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-govt-logic-please-explain/148977/28 "2003-01-16T20:46:48Z")

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It isn’t widely reported, in these times, but the US does know how much chemical weaponry it sent to Iraq in the 80’s for use against Iran. If they can’t account for it all, that isn’t exactly demanding the proof of a negative.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-govt-logic-please-explain/148977/29 "2003-01-16T22:05:30Z")

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\> show no tea to door

The door is impressed, but refuses to open.

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-govt-logic-please-explain/148977/30 "2003-01-16T22:35:49Z")

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> Which makes the vague facts we can’t reveal, saber rattling, and current spin even more bizarre.

Not really. It’s a lot easier to point to the threat of WMD’s in order to stir up public dissent… it’s an attempt to drum up images of 9/11 and terrorist attacks on the United States.

I do believe that Iraq has violated its agreement, and should be punished. I DON’T believe that it’s only because of WMD’s.

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**Author:** ![tcdaniel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9bd4f/32.png) [@tcdaniel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tcdaniel)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-govt-logic-please-explain/148977/31 "2003-01-17T03:28:27Z")

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Sounds to me like “a country of interest”😃

Perhaps mr hatfill can assist iraq on how to handle these allegations

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