# US Midterm Election watch along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 9, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619 "2022-11-09T00:29:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 49
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/961 "2022-11-13T19:41:36Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > Heck, even MA, CT, and VT have pink rural areas, although less than half the state. NH and RI are about 50% each way. ME looks like the typical non-New England state. Looked at my county, which in 2020 broke for Biden by 11 points. Mostly pale pink except for the southwest corner, which is solid city and a huge chunk of the eastern part of the county which was solid red. Said chunk exactly the size of 29 Palms Marine Base. What a surprise. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/962 "2022-11-13T19:59:49Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > We still have the AZ Governor race left. Hobbs (Dem) vs Lake (MAGA). There will be a drop tonight that should put an end to things. Lake needs 56.5% of the remaining 266k votes which are expected to be slightly red but not nearly enough. Lake carried yesterday’s Maricopa votes 52/48. Hobbs carried the Pima votes 60/40 if I recall correctly. That canceled out any gains Lake made in Maricopa. There are 195k left in Maricopa (including all provisionals, so the net will be something less) and 53k left in Pima. If those ratios hold Hobbs should actually pick up votes. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/963 "2022-11-13T20:20:36Z")
GA’s runoff rules are interesting. Election is on 12/06. Early voting can’t start until the results are officially certified which is expected to be on November 21st. There only has to be five days of in person early voting although precincts can offer more but none of them can be on Thanksgiving or the two days afterwards. Only currently registered voters can vote in this election because there isn’t enough time to process new registrations before the election. Since there wouldn’t be time for overseas votes to get sent out and returned, those voters were given a ranked choice option to be used in the event of a runoff. > **[Shorter voting window could cut turnout in Georgia runoff](https://www.yahoo.com/news/shorter-voting-window-could-cut-160640918.html)** > > Georgia Democrat Raphael Warnock's first runoff in 2021 was a titanic nine-week clash to control the Senate that included three weeks of early in-person voting and lots of mail ballots. Warnock's victory against Republican Sen. Kelly Loeffler - and... ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/964 "2022-11-13T20:58:52Z")
**Required:** Monday through Friday, Nov. 28 to Dec. 2 **Optional:** Tuesday, Nov. 22; Wednesday, Nov. 23; Sunday, Nov. 27. County election boards can decide whether to offer early voting on these days. Note: Early voting can’t begin until Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger certifies results of the initial election, which could occur as soon as Nov. 21. Early voting won’t be allowed on a Saturday before the U.S. Senate runoff in Georgia because it’s the day after the state holiday formerly known as Robert E. Lee’s Birthday, now called State Holiday. Catchy, isn’t it? > The General Assembly [passed the law](https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20152016/162401) restricting Saturday voting after holidays in 2016, but it wasn’t an issue in previous runoffs because at the time, they took place nine weeks after Election Day, long after Thanksgiving and the State Holiday. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/965 "2022-11-13T21:06:01Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > After a defeat in Nevada, every election denier who tried to become the top election official in a battleground state has lost at the polls. That is good news. I saw the trend, but I wasn’t sure if they all lost. There are deniers and Deniers. Some Repubs will say the 2020 election has issues, maybe fraud. The Deniers will say that no matter which way the People vote, they will changes the result to GOP. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/966 "2022-11-13T21:36:40Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > > [@romansperson](#): > > > > After a defeat in Nevada, every election denier who tried to become the top election official in a battleground state has lost at the polls. > > That is good news. I saw the trend, but I wasn’t sure if they all lost. Note the “in a battleground state”. I think a couple of them won, but in states so heavily Republican that it probably won’t have an effect at the federal level; no need to steal an election that you honestly won. On elections within their states, however – even the reddest states have some blue spots, and sometimes statewide issues on which voters may disagree with their secretaries of state/governors etc. Including whether those people should get re-elected. However, it’s a whole lot better than it could have been. And it may be enough to tamp down the overall party attitude. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/967 "2022-11-13T22:19:52Z")
Any guesses on how much money will flow into Georgia? ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/968 "2022-11-13T23:01:50Z")
Hobbs increased her lead by 2k votes after drops from Pima, Pinal, and Coconino Counties. Maricopa is promising a big drop 6ish MST. ---
**Author:** ![ctnguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@ctnguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ctnguy)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/969 "2022-11-13T23:06:16Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Unlike most RCV schemes, in this system first-choice votes are assigned to the second choice either when the first choice is eliminated, or when the first choice already has enough votes to put them over the top. It’s a complex system that needs its own thread for deeper discussion. That sounds like Single Transferable Vote (STV), which is a fairly standard method for RCV when you have to elect multiple members from one district. Edit: I found [a description of the proposal:](https://ballotpedia.org/Portland,_Oregon,_Measure_26-228,_Changes_to_City_Governance_and_Ranked-Choice_Voting_Measure_(November_2022)) > This measure provided that ballots would be counted in rounds. Any candidate exceeding the threshold would be elected, and that candidate’s votes above the threshold would be proportionally transferred to other candidates based on voter preference. The candidate receiving the fewest votes in each round would be eliminated, and that candidate’s votes would be transferred to other candidates based on voters’ preferences. The process would then continue for as many rounds as necessary until all positions are filled. It sounds complicated, but yes as described that’s standard STV. ---
**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/970 "2022-11-13T23:29:19Z")
I sent $250. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/971 "2022-11-13T23:32:07Z")
I’m totally there for the STV discussion. It is the basic election mechanism of the Fair Representation Act. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/972 "2022-11-13T23:37:57Z")
> [@ctnguy](#): > > I found [a description of the proposal:](https://ballotpedia.org/Portland,_Oregon,_Measure_26-228,_Changes_to_City_Governance_and_Ranked-Choice_Voting_Measure_(November_2022)) > > > This measure provided that ballots would be counted in rounds. Any candidate exceeding the threshold would be elected, and that candidate’s votes above the threshold would be proportionally transferred to other candidates based on voter preference. The candidate receiving the fewest votes in each round would be eliminated, and that candidate’s votes would be transferred to other candidates based on voters’ preferences. The process would then continue for as many rounds as necessary until all positions are filled. > > It sounds complicated, but yes as described that’s standard STV. Is this for offices to which multiple people will be elected – say, for example, there are two openings on the Village Board and four candidates? ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/973 "2022-11-14T01:06:47Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > There are deniers and Deniers. Yep, all Republicans are either deniers or dissemblers. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/974 "2022-11-14T01:24:51Z")
In the latest vote dump, Hobbs loses a bit of her lead, but is holding on. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/975 "2022-11-14T01:27:50Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Yep, all Republicans are either deniers or dissemblers. My understanding is that even Liz Cheney supported Trump’s policies almost the entire time and it was only lying about the election that pushed her. Did she vote to impeach him after January 6? I should hope so. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/976 "2022-11-14T01:29:52Z")
She voted NO on the first impeachment and YES on the second one. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/977 "2022-11-14T01:30:40Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Did she vote to impeach him after January 6? I should hope so. She was one of 10 Republicans in the House who voted “Yes” on the second impeachment. > **[Second impeachment of Donald Trump | House vote](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_impeachment_of_Donald_Trump#House_vote)** > > In the aftermath of the attack, members of media and political organizations expressed support for Trump to be either impeached or removed through the methods outlined in the 25th Amendment. Any impeachment by the House of Representatives requires a trial and conviction in the Senate, with the concurrence of two-thirds of Senators present and voting needed to remove the President from office. During the impeachment and trial process, the President remains in office. On January 8, the extent of su... ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/978 "2022-11-14T01:39:34Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > She was one of 10 Republicans in the House who voted “Yes” on the second impeachment. And of those 10, at most 2 will return to Congress next year (Rep. Dan Newhouse was reelected but Rep. David Valadao’s race is still uncalled. All the others declined to run or lost their primaries.) ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/979 "2022-11-14T02:18:47Z")
House is now 212r-204d. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/980 "2022-11-14T03:23:55Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > My understanding is that even Liz Cheney supported Trump’s policies almost the entire time and it was only lying about the election that pushed her. Yes, about 93% of the time. > **[Tracking Congress In The Age Of Trump](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/liz-cheney/)** > > FiveThirtyEight is tracking which senators and representatives agree and disagree most with Donald Trump. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619.md?page=48) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619.md?page=50)