# US Midterm Election watch along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 9, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619 "2022-11-09T00:29:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 58
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1141 "2022-11-22T18:18:15Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > INteresting story about the Arizona state house: Link not working for me. “Liz Harris, who was recently elected to represent District 13 in the East Valley, says that she will not vote in the state legislature unless the election is redone.” Which election does she want redone? 2020 Presidential election? Her own? On what grounds is she complaining? Not that I object to her withholding her vote. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1142 "2022-11-22T18:22:23Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Which election does she want redone? 2020 Presidential election? Her own? On what grounds is she complaining? The 2022 election (I can get the article link to work). Quoting from the article: > [@](#): > > A Chandler Republican recently elected to the Arizona House of Representatives says that she will not cast her vote on any bill unless the 2022 election is redone. > > Liz Harris, recently elected to represent Legislative District 13 which encompasses much of Chandler, issued the statement on [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/votelizharris/) and her [campaign website](https://www.votelizharris.com/) saying in part “it has become obvious that we need to hold a new election immediately.” > > Despite winning her own election, Harris alleges that there were “clear signs of foul play” which necessitated her demands. There has been no evidence of this. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1143 "2022-11-22T18:39:22Z")
Here she is: [![](https://museumofpsychology.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/man-cutting-the-branch-sitting-on-illustration-by-frits-ahlefeldt1500-square.jpg?w=1400) ](https://museumofpsychology.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/man-cutting-the-branch-sitting-on-illustration-by-frits-ahlefeldt1500-square.jpg?w=1400) ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1144 "2022-11-22T19:32:40Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > “Liz Harris, who was recently elected to represent District 13 in the East Valley, says that she will not vote in the state legislature unless the election is redone. Gotta love The Onion. Right? This is from The Onion, no? No? No?? ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1145 "2022-11-22T19:37:44Z")
Shows the level of maturity of our representatives… “I’m going to hold my breath until I turn, um, Blue?” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1146 "2022-11-22T20:00:19Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Incumbent Republican Rep David Valadao was declared the winner in California’s 22nd District yesterday. He is one of two House Republicans who voted to impeach Trump and were re-elected this year. That is good news, thanks. All we need is a half dozen of so sane Republicans in the House. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1147 "2022-11-22T20:03:00Z")
Presumably, Liz Harris will be refusing to draw a paycheck, as well, right? Right? ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1148 "2022-11-22T20:22:13Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > Presumably, Liz Harris will be refusing to draw a paycheck, as well, right? If she were in the Oregon legislature, she could be in a lot of trouble. We just passed a referendum that penalizes legislators who have unexcused absences. $500 fine per day, loss of pay for that day. With 10 or more, they can be disqualified from running for re-election. The measure was in response to Republicans who do not show up (usually leave the state) to deny a quorum and thus prevent passage of laws that they disagree with. ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1149 "2022-11-22T20:28:53Z")
nice. That’s awesome ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1150 "2022-11-23T04:32:03Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > Even so, that’s a big “fuck you” to the voters who just elected her to represent them. You make that sound like it’s a bad thing. May their next choice be better. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1151 "2022-11-23T14:21:02Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > What could they possibly be thinking? Never mind. Wrong thread. ---
**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1152 "2022-11-23T23:51:17Z")
Hamadeh is suing to be declared the winner of the race for Arizona Attorney General: [Washington Post (gift link)](https://wapo.st/3GEdBZJ) > The suit asks the court to issue an injunction preventing the secretary of state from certifying Mayes as the winner and requiring her to declare Hamadeh the winner. It also asks that the court order the various county officials to correct procedural and tabulation errors it claims they made and amend the final vote count, which it argues will make the Republican the winner. > Dan Barr, an attorney for Mayes, said the Democrat will ask the court to dismiss the complaint, which he called “devoid of actual facts.” Here’s hoping for a quick dismissal. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1153 "2022-11-24T01:33:12Z")
> [@slash2k](#): > > Alaska Peltola (D) is way ahead but didn’t cross 50% so it depends on how second choices break in that state’s ranked-choice voting system; next announcement will be Nov. 23 And she wins! > ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1154 "2022-11-24T02:04:13Z")
Woot! So happy about this! ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1155 "2022-11-24T02:18:12Z")
Murkowski won too. Neither was a big surprise. It’d been a surprise if either had lost. Republicans have already taken the message that the RCV is bad for them. They’re right, but probably not for the reason (whatever they come up with, if any) they think. It’s because RCV disfavors extremist candidates and Trumpists are pretty much all extremists. The way Alaska does RCV, there’s also a need to campaign differently in the primary. Because four candidates advance from the primary, you don’t want to alienate voters who are likely to give a 2nd choice vote. So attacking another candidate from your own party in the primary is not a good idea. That other candidate could also be in the general election and you want their voters’ second choices. I do not live in Alaska, but from what I gather, Palin didn’t understand this. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1156 "2022-11-24T02:18:21Z")
Similarly, Murkowski won for Senator over Palin. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1157 "2022-11-24T12:29:32Z")
I did some game theory calculations about how the additional senator affects M and S’s voting power > [@Messing around with Senate Coalition Game Theory](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/messing-around-with-senate-coalition-game-theory/975461): > > So I have an amateur interest in Game Theory (I’ve taken a course and read some books), and I like messing around with different examples. One that occurred to me is how much power particular coalitions (including coalitions of one) have in the Senate, based on how many people are in each coalition. This is obviously an oversimplification, but I’m going to assume that the votes we care about are won by the side with the most votes - with the subtlety that the one of the coalitions has a Vice P… ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1158 "2022-11-29T18:38:46Z")
The Board of Supervisors in Cochise County, Arizona have voted to refuse to certify their vote in the recent election. A Pennsylvania county did as well. > **[Counties in Arizona, Pennsylvania fail to certify election results by legal...](https://www.npr.org/2022/11/28/1139447507/arizona-midterm-election-results-cochise-county)** > > Around 164,000 people's votes for the midterm elections are at risk after Arizona's Cochise County and Pennsylvania's Luzerne County failed to certify local results by their states' deadlines. It doesn’t say that in the NPR article, but I read elsewhere that without Cochise County votes (heavily R), at least two election results will be flipped from R to D, including one for the US House of Representatives. My reaction: OK, let them not be counted. If they don’t want to join the election, we’ll just let them sit there and pout. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1159 "2022-11-29T18:50:55Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > My reaction: OK, let them not be counted. If they don’t want to join the election, we’ll just let them sit there and pout. My sentiments exactly. And after they disenfranchise thousands of mostly Republican voters, let them explain their reasoning for flauting the law to a judge and to all of those voters. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1160 "2022-11-29T19:18:31Z")
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