# US Midterm Election watch along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 9, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619 "2022-11-09T00:29:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1281 "2022-12-07T13:13:33Z")

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> [@Messing around with Senate Coalition Game Theory](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/messing-around-with-senate-coalition-game-theory/975461):
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> So I have an amateur interest in Game Theory (I’ve taken a course and read some books), and I like messing around with different examples. One that occurred to me is how much power particular coalitions (including coalitions of one) have in the Senate, based on how many people are in each coalition. This is obviously an oversimplification, but I’m going to assume that the votes we care about are won by the side with the most votes - with the subtlety that the one of the coalitions has a Vice P…

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1282 "2022-12-07T13:14:46Z")

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> **Brought back up topic that already hijacked this thread.**
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> But is there _any_ way possible for the Democrats to win and for both Manchin & Sinema to lose? Cause that’d still be my vote. 😄

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1283 "2022-12-07T13:18:42Z")

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1284 "2022-12-07T13:19:42Z")

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**As per prior modnote:**

> [@US Midterm Election watch along thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/745):
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> Modhat on: OK, looks like a good discussion for another thread and a probable severe hijack of this very informative one. Drop the Joe Manchin, Big Tent side discussion. I’ll try to note all the related posts.

Hiding post above. Start a new thread or find an appropriate thread for such.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1285 "2022-12-07T13:27:47Z")

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1286 "2022-12-07T13:35:11Z")

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Deleted as possibly contradicting mod instructions.

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1287 "2022-12-07T13:46:19Z")

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Is it just me or does anyone else feel like Fox must have distributed an internal memo about waiting until other networks announce democratic wins following their early call of Biden for Arizona in 2020? I gather that call angered a lot of the Fox faithful.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1288 "2022-12-07T14:46:51Z")

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Last night, both Hannity and Gingrich lamented the fact that Pubs don’t vote early or by mail. Wonder why that is?

> **[Hannity doesn't know where GOP voters got the idea that mail-in ballots are...](https://boingboing.net/2022/12/07/hannity-doesnt-know-where-gop-voters-got-the-idea-that-mail-in-ballots-are-bad-while-gingrich-threatens-to-abolish-tiktok.html)**
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> Last night, Sean Hannity and Newt Gingrich seem to have forgotten how they and everyone else on Fox News have been telling viewers for years that mail-in and early voting are bad. Hannity: “I…

> Hannity: “I think Republicans have been unwilling, for whatever reason … to voting early and voting by mail.”

Newt responded with some amazing in-depth analysis:

> After appearing to agree with Hannity for a moment, Gingrich launched into a pair of howlers of his own. 1) Republicans lost in the midterms because they didn’t have TikTok accounts to appeal to the young 'uns, 2) “even if, in fact, in the long run, _we_ may abolish TikTok as a Chinese communist device.”

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1289 "2022-12-07T18:27:10Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> At least Walker has conceded. I’ll give him just that one thing.

And didn’t climb onto the, “I wuz robbed!” bandwagon – I’m lookin’ at _you_, Keri Lake.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1290 "2022-12-07T18:28:29Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> And didn’t climb onto the, “I wuz robbed!” bandwagon – I’m lookin’ at _you_, Keri Lake

Besides her, were there a lot of “election fraud” candidates this time?

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1291 "2022-12-07T18:31:59Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Besides her, were there a lot of “election fraud” candidates this time?

Not really. Which is one of the encouraging things to come out of the midterms. Perhaps this may lead one of the major parties in this country to conduct a serious post mortem and, you know, actually follow up on its findings and recommendations. Naw, what am I saying, that’s not gonna happen.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1292 "2022-12-07T18:38:26Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Okay, someone **explain like I’m five** : a 51-member majority is a Good Thing, not questioning that.

With the Senate not tied, they don’t have to operate with a power sharing agreement with the Republicans.

> **[The Senate Power-Sharing Agreement for the 117th Congress | Insights |...](https://www.hklaw.com/en/insights/publications/2021/02/the-senate-power-sharing-agreement-for-the-117th-congress)**
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> A look at the contexts of the U.S. Senate's power-sharing agreement and what it could mean for the legislative outlook during the 117th Congress.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1293 "2022-12-07T18:43:36Z")

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Oh, yes. In Arizona alone, Blake Masters for senate and at least Gosar and Biggs for house plus no small number of Republican candidates for state senate and house. Most notably for state office, Mark Finchem for Secretary of State. Since we won’t have a Lieutenant Governor until 2026 – a proposition to create the office passed this election – the SoS takes over if the Governor dies or is incapacitated.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1294 "2022-12-07T19:00:54Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> > [@Mahaloth](#):
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> > At least Walker has conceded. I’ll give him just that one thing.
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> And didn’t climb onto the, “I wuz robbed!” bandwagon – I’m lookin’ at _you_, Keri Lake.

Walker, in his speech, really came across like he was relieved the whole thing was done, tbh.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1295 "2022-12-07T19:07:53Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> The vampire vote came through in the end!

Vampires- being dead- cannot vote, however, werewolves certainly can!

> [@flurb](#):
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> I cannot think of a case where a party more thoroughly shot themselves in the foot than Republicans this year.

Overconfidence and trumpism denied them the Red tidal wave they were expecting.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1296 "2022-12-07T19:08:06Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> Walker, in his speech, really came across like he was relieved the whole thing was done, tbh.

How did he even get into this mess? Who got him to run? It’s so weird.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1297 "2022-12-07T19:14:59Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> > [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> > The vampire vote came through in the end!
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> Vampires- being dead- cannot vote, however, werewolves certainly can!

Be careful, you’re playing into the traditional Republican talking points about the dead voting illegally! And since they’re obviously voting for the _wrong_ party from that POV, we can’t use the classic quote.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1298 "2022-12-07T19:15:35Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> How did he even get into this mess? Who got him to run? It’s so weird.

Trump (his pal going all the way back to their New Jersey Generals days) supposedly talked him into it, though both camps are backpedaling and saying the other was the main instigator of it.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1299 "2022-12-07T19:20:54Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Be careful, you’re playing into the traditional Republican talking points about the dead voting illegally!

You do have a point. My 40 years of experience playing and DMing D&D has enabled me to ID Giuliani as Undead. However, I am still unclear which type.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1300 "2022-12-07T19:23:10Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> My 40 years of experience playing and DMing D&D has enabled me to ID Giuliani as Undead. However, I am still unclear which type.

I vote for ghast.

Also, vampires and other undead can, and likely do, vote in Cook County. 😉

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