# US Midterm Election watch along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 9, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619 "2022-11-09T00:29:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1301 "2022-12-07T19:36:44Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> You do have a point. My 40 years of experience playing and DMing D&D has enabled me to ID Giuliani as Undead. However, I am still unclear which type.

Clearly a lich

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1302 "2022-12-07T19:57:28Z")

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> [@Cardigan](#):
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> Clearly a lich

Naw, Liches are powerful and terrifying. Giuliani is neither. Scary, sure.

But this elections is a major victory, bigger than many think. The Dems _should_ have lost the midterms- Inflation, especially high costs of gas\*. But instead, the Dems won the Senate and were edged out in the House.

This is also a major loss for trumpism.

\*(I noted that in the run up to the midterms, gas prices in CA were at record highs, but have been dropping day after day afterwards. I can not help but think that Big Oil kept the prices high to make the Dems look bad)

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1303 "2022-12-07T20:19:51Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> \*(I noted that in the run up to the midterms, gas prices in CA were at record highs, but have been dropping day after day afterwards. I can not help but think that Big Oil kept the prices high to make the Dems look bad)

Glad(?) to see I’m not the only person out here with a touch of paranoia.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1304 "2022-12-07T20:52:01Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> \*(I noted that in the run up to the midterms, gas prices in CA were at record highs, but have been dropping day after day afterwards. I can not help but think that Big Oil kept the prices high to make the Dems look bad)

According to [AAA](https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=US), the average price of regular gasoline today in the US is 3.35. A month ago it was 3.80. A year ago? 3.34.

Your cynicism, along with @silenus, is well-founded.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1305 "2022-12-07T21:09:01Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> The Dems _should_ have lost the midterms- Inflation, especially high costs of gas\*.

Maybe Democratic voters aren’t actually blaming Joe Biden for everything from hair loss to weight gain to their dog’s fleas?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1306 "2022-12-07T21:17:38Z")

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One Neat Trick democratic voters know is that the President doesn’t set the prices at the local Exxon.

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1307 "2022-12-07T21:38:40Z")

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Yes, according to Walker’s son, Trump was harassing his father for months begging him to run.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1308 "2022-12-07T21:44:06Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> Yes, according to Walker’s son, Trump was harassing his father for months begging him to run .

I wonder why gives a shit about who is the Senator from Georgia.

I get endorsing people and saying a few things to try to get them elected, but putting in the effort to recruit someone seems like more work than he’s used to.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1309 "2022-12-07T21:55:27Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I wonder why gives a shit about who is the Senator from Georgia.

Trump thought that if Walker was elected, he would own him. Or did I mean owe him? Either way…

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1310 "2022-12-07T22:29:52Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> > [@suranyi](#):
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> > Yes, according to Walker’s son, Trump was harassing his father for months begging him to run .
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> I wonder why gives a shit about who is the Senator from Georgia.
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> I get endorsing people and saying a few things to try to get them elected, but putting in the effort to recruit someone seems like more work than he’s used to.

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Trump thought that if Walker was elected, he would own him. Or did I mean owe him? Either way…

Also Trump still is pissed off at Gov Kemp and SecState Raffensberger for not ‘finding him votes’, but also recording him asking for them to find him votes. And making it known that Trump was badgering them to change the votes. So he wanted to humiliate them by putting his people in - he also harassed David Perdue to run in a primary against Kemp.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1311 "2022-12-08T17:22:43Z")

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One last comment on the mid-terms from me. I find this story interesting and important enough to burn a gift link:

> **[Turnout by Republicans Was Great. It’s Just That Many of Them Didn’t Vote for...](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/08/upshot/georgia-voter-turnout-republicans.html?unlocked_article_code=wN9SQ_DJHAs0ct3SxQB9D9_8Xz7WDsaB88sf9CJayoq7ru21sfCibnEEOZnMtbJ08JtC0ukDRErTRQcxSHlACJklMbOeKfD21XT8nw5dNMY0ngm14KQAlSAwoDfH2oVd9pgSvolX5Y7ptPCPnmEVFIAgv5EekVVZC1WNNI99bSgAfg61b7HTHOZODuJFU_jAoOPQ2T8o_NHFREToo5UHj0lXkADxmk3zD3yP69L2oV4HbZuqx-u2z7hGw70Hg2yrfMbq6930c18oAfHpd_LpbkN74_tfpNC1KaWeiHIcAB5m2b9LgKGDorLpHFIXkeoKdqWsF_5WFLbjPkCqSmgxKm7AhNHxzjz-SK8u&smid=share-url)**
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> They sometimes found Democratic candidates more palatable at the top of the ticket.

More from the article:

> But as more data becomes available on turnout in this year’s election, it is quite clear that turnout was not the main problem facing Republicans.
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> In state after state, the final turnout data shows that registered Republicans turned out at a higher rate — and in some places a much higher rate — than registered Democrats, including in many of the states where Republicans were dealt some of their most embarrassing losses.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1312 "2022-12-08T17:37:19Z")

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Thanks for this. “Republican-leaning voters decided to cast ballots for Democrats.” On one hand, what great news! On the other hand, Democrats have to be careful – they can’t rely on “own goals” (inherently craptastic GOP candidates) in every election. Now that Trump’s power has been shown diminished on Election Day, his power will next be diminished in primaries…and that will likely mean more “electable” candidates.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1313 "2022-12-08T17:40:49Z")

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> **[Trump Apologists Have Found Scapegoat For Midterms Fail: RNC Chair Ronna...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ronna-mcdaniel-trump-midterms-fail_n_63910e04e4b075ad5d4e98bd)**
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> Some are also blaming Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell and House GOP leader Kevin McCarthy, but deny Trump had anything to do with it.

> WASHINGTON — After watching [Donald Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) lead the [Republican Party](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/republican-party) to a third straight bad election season, his followers appear to be coalescing around a consensus: It’s all Ronna McDaniel’s fault.
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> Rather than blaming the coup-attempting former president — who made the willingness to spread his lies about the 2020 election a condition of his support — activists, lawmakers and even some fellow Republican National Committee members have instead turned on the RNC chair who is seeking a fourth two-year term.  
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It’s got to be anyone’s fault except Donnie’s.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1314 "2022-12-08T17:43:33Z")

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I agree with all you’ve said.

And I think Dems particularly need to watch out for Glenn Younkin-style candidates, now Governor of Virginia. He campaigned as a moderate. He’s anything but. Now he’s in power, his true colors are revealed. He’s very much in service to the harder right.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1315 "2022-12-08T17:59:14Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> My 40 years of experience playing and DMing D&D has enabled me to ID Giuliani as Undead. However, I am still unclear which type.

Yeah, it’s difficult to figure out which category to assign Nosferudy Ghouliani.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1316 "2022-12-08T20:17:44Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> It’s got to be anyone’s fault except Donnie’s.

It is definitely Ronna’s fault! That’s why I’m fully supporting Mr Pillow’s push to run the RNC. Only Mikey can save that sinking ship!

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1317 "2022-12-08T20:55:18Z")

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I read something about Trump that may explain why he pushed Walker so hard. He wants people who look the part. That is more important to him than qualifications. That also would explain his SOS choice. Think about it. If all you care about is appearance than a lot of Trump’s choices make more sense.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1318 "2022-12-08T21:54:40Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> If all you care about is appearance than a lot of Trump’s choices make more sense.

I guess that’s why Chris Christie never got a Cabinet position.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1319 "2022-12-08T22:11:24Z")

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Or maybe as he put away favorite SIL’s crooked father?

Seems much more likely.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1320 "2022-12-08T22:25:31Z")

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This is 100% true.

> **[Donald Trump Told Chris Christie to Lose Weight to Win](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-told-chris-christie-lose-weight-you-gotta-look-better-be-able-1292584)**
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> Chris Christie wrote that Trump asked him to wear a longer tie to help him appear skinnier.

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