# US Midterm Election watch along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 9, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619 "2022-11-09T00:29:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1341 "2022-12-13T21:53:12Z")

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Technically, Washington’s 3rd Congressional district is still [heading for a recount at the request of the losing (R) candidate.](https://www.sos.wa.gov/office/news-releases.aspx#/news/1480) The difference was 2,629 votes, or 0.83%, which was above the automatic recount threshold. It obviously won’t change anything and the election was already certified, so we can consider it over.

Amusingly, the losing candidate in the WA 9th district also requested a recount of 717 votes cast in two precincts. He lost the election by 104,115 votes, or 43%. You’ll never guess his party.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1342 "2022-12-20T03:06:11Z")

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After searching on her name, I guess this is the best place to put this:

> <https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1605034422729859074?t=mPaO53n_tvV1vBJBTMzPXg&s=19>

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1343 "2022-12-20T03:06:55Z")

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I love Marc Elias. He’s a treasure.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1344 "2022-12-20T03:10:09Z")

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Just noticed the sanctions line. Love it!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1345 "2022-12-20T03:16:19Z")

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He also follows up with this, re: the remaining two claims

> <https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1605038272966696961?t=0QgVML_NMN__jmT2d9-vtw&s=19>
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> Marc E. Elias @marceelias

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1346 "2022-12-20T03:45:17Z")

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Did you read the summary of the December 19th oral arguments detailed under your link at [democracydocket.com](http://democracydocket.com)? Jeebus. Just… nuts.

A mere taste:

> Next, the judge heard from Lake’s attorney (who might be remembered by his stint representing the controversial Cyber Ninjas during Arizona’s 2020 election “audit”), who argued that Maricopa County failed to follow its election procedures and chain of custody rules for ballots. He claimed that “mysteriously, 25,000 extra ballots appeared” in Maricopa County after the election and these ballots are “outcome determinative.” He then made the argument that Maricopa County officials are engaged in a “secret censorship operation set up by the government that would make Orwell blush.” In support of this allegation of a conspiracy, Lake’s attorney suggested that “you have the federal government creating an election misinformation reporting portal, specifically for state and local election officials, which ties them directly with social media companies like Twitter and Facebook and allows these election officials to immediately flag and take down information to censor people that they find objectionable. They call it misinformation, but this is a secret operation” that is allegedly an “affront to the First Amendment.” Lake’s attorney then referred to a pollster for the Epoch Times who said the total number of disenfranchised voters in Maricopa County would be “outcome determinative.”

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1347 "2022-12-20T03:51:49Z")

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Am I crazy to think this isn’t going to work out the way Lake and the other buffoons expect it will?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1348 "2022-12-20T03:54:12Z")

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LOL, you’re going to be fine. 🙂 (I suspect you already know this.)

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1349 "2022-12-20T06:10:14Z")

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Something I find entertaining is that the comments section of the local rags are all mocking her and the AG pretender. Most of the usual trumpies have gone into radio silence which happened shortly after the playing cards announcements.

I doubt they are embarrassed, I think they are running off to a more receptive echo chamber, but it is possible that one or two of them have figured things out.

I will confess to doing a little trolling in the comments section. More than 28 thousand people in Arizona have died from COVID since the plague started. Just taking a WAG, I’d say that at least 14 thousand of those people were anti-vax. If tump had taken the plague serious, I’d bet that all of those dead anti-vaxxers would be alive to vote for the trump tickets.

II thrive on the hate!

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1350 "2022-12-27T13:07:46Z")

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Why aren’t we taking more about the incredibly profuse pathological liar (and criminal) George Santos, about to be sworn in as a Republican congressman from New York, with the GOP’s blessing? I found only a couple mentions, in P & E (I’d expect much more in the Pit).Fascinating story that resonates with so many themes Dopers love to discuss.

Am I missing something?

I’ve posted this in four threads (no more, I promise), because I’m genuinely puzzled.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1351 "2022-12-27T13:12:11Z")

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Outrage fatigue? So many pathological liars, and limited energy to focus on this one?

Sorry, that’s all I got. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1352 "2022-12-27T13:12:41Z")

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Good point…and so sad.  
I’ll start one now.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1353 "2022-12-27T13:13:36Z")

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Here’s something that just popped up in the Stupid Republican thread:

> [@NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/6514):
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> [https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/26/politics/george-santos-admits-embellishing-resume/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/26/politics/george-santos-admits-embellishing-resume/index.html) Some choice snippets from the article: GOP Rep.-elect George Santos of New York admitted in two separate interviews on Monday to lying about parts of his resume but claimed that he hasn’t committed any crimes and intends to serve in Congress. “I’m not going to make excuses for this, but a lot of people overstate in their resumes, or twist a little bit. … I’m not saying I’m not guilty of that,” he sa…

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1354 "2022-12-27T13:14:12Z")

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Thanks.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1355 "2022-12-27T14:13:31Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> I’ve posted this in four threads (no more, I promise), because I’m genuinely puzzled.

If you want to have a productive discussion about Santos (which I’m up for – I posted about his lies in the NY House elections thread), posting across four threads is the worst way to do it. You’re just going to end up with disjointed conversations. Stick to one thread or start one of your own.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1356 "2022-12-27T15:29:04Z")

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Thanks — sorry. I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t missing one. I’ve continued this conversation in an existing thread (the one ThelmaLou linked to), and of it finds a home there, great; if not, I’ll start a new thread.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1357 "2022-12-29T21:37:43Z")

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“PHOENIX (AP) — A recount of votes has confirmed Democrat Kris Mayes narrowly defeated Republican Abraham Hamadeh in the Arizona attorney general’s race, one of the closest elections in state history.  
The highly anticipated results announced Thursday in Maricopa County Superior Court are among the last in the country to come out of November’s election and solidified another victory for Democrats who shunned election fraud conspiracies in what used to be a solidly Republican state.  
With Hamadeh’s defeat, Republicans running statewide in battleground states who spread former President Donald Trump’s false claim that the 2020 election was stolen have all [lost their races](https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-donald-trump-race-and-ethnicity-e825e069640f1c89063210c39cd92ae4).”

> **[Democrat wins Arizona attorney general race after recount](https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-politics-phoenix-arizona-09aee9ff24cd2af5777a6d7ae140782b)**
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> PHOENIX (AP) — A recount of votes has confirmed Democrat Kris Mayes narrowly defeated Republican Abraham Hamadeh in the Arizona attorney general’s race, one of the closest elections in state history.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2022, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1358 "2022-12-30T00:23:07Z")

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From the article, the lead went from 511 down to 280. That’s actually a lot of votes in a modern recount. It would be informative to see how the totals changed.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2022, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1359 "2022-12-30T01:55:06Z")

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Exactly my thought. And that this will likely just make the Lake crowd ramp up their squawking.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2022, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thread/974619/1360 "2022-12-30T02:52:22Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> From the article, the lead went from 511 down to 280. That’s actually a lot of votes in a modern recount. It would be informative to see how the totals changed.

I see a result like that, and I wonder how many midterm races were decided for Dems by the preponderance of covid deaths among right-leaning, more-likely-to-participate (since older) voters.

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